Posted on 07/10/2016 7:39:06 AM PDT by MtnClimber
It’s happened to most of us – some more than others. You’re driving down the highway or a backroad or maybe you roll through a stop sign one too many times, and here they come. The flashing lights, the piercing sound of the siren. It’s nerve-racking, to say the least.
With so much tension surrounding recent officer-involved shootings, I feel a duty to open the discussion on what to do when legal gun owners either open or concealed carrying are pulled over by police.
No matter what state you find yourself in, national firearms expert and trainer Massad Ayoob explains there is a universal way to inform the officer you’re carrying: hand your concealed carry permit over with your drivers license.
(Excerpt) Read more at bearingarms.com ...
A lady in my building told me of her experience pulled over by a cop in - was it VA? or OH? - anyway, she was respectful, as was the cop. I don’t recall all the minutiae of their conversation, but as she handed over the gun at his request, he checked & opined that it was better to carry with a round in the pipe. Or it was some other be-ready-to-shoot-at-a-moment’s notice bit of wisdom, meant to contradict her carrying condition.
Minutes later when he returned to hand back her license + citation + handgun, the jerk gave back the weapon in pieces. I guess he was only *so* committed to life-saving defense for a road-tripping female.
That said, I’ve only handled interactions w/ LEOs in a respectful manner. (Had a bit of a lead foot in my younger days. Now I leave myself more time to get to work.) Hands or wrists on the wheel, fingers pulling out license/registration or visibly fumbling at it. I’m harmless to you, Mr. Leo.
Most have been professional & polite, tho there’s been the occasional snarky bastard. I quietly endure the tongue-lashing from the self-righteous jerks, accepting that it usually is the price they exact for not writing up a ticket that would later affect my insurance. *shrug* I’m a self-serving coward, but my premiums are low. ;o)
P.S. Back in the 90s, my car broke down on the hwy as I was trying to get home from work. Cop who called me a wrecker invited me to take refuge in his car. Was already sitting there before I remembered the little pistol at the small of my back. Kept damn mouth shut. Survived the night. Disagree w/ obligation to inform. My state requires it. I took the class but couldn’t make myself go thru w/ registering w/ the state for the ‘legal’ right to defend my person. So while I might carry Constitutionally upon occasion, I’m technically breaking the law.
Thank you for posting this. I have had a CCW for over 14 years, renewed it three times, and this is always good review.
Thanks for passing along that info/experiences! It is greatly appreciated.
Being drawn on was an eye-opener, as I’d complied with all instructions. What more does one need to do? Avoidance is key.
I’m still considering “best”/ least troublesome (trouble making!) approaches.
I’d concluded in the past that one of the best approaches is to have known 2a lawyer on speed dial, which that 2a forum also accomplished for me, as have Friends of NRA events.
ie, (LEAST trouble-making?!)
Right! which is understandable, but not helpful. The partner clearly did not agree, but demurred, even in the retelling.
See also #141, unbelievable.
No. Your laws in Texas are different than from here in Georgia.
Those forms are NOT delivered to the government unless they have a warrant for a SPECIFIC serialized weapon which they have a legitimate reason to believe it was used in a crime.
The serial number (if they have the weapon) gets tracked to the manufacturer and then to the seller, and then, with a warrant gets the buyer’s information.
This is always abused by the ATF, but that’s what the Federal Statutes say.
Laws have nothing to do with how you conduct yourself when being questioned by the police. You’re insisting that a flip answer to a cop’s query about weapons is A-ok because your police chief said it. That’s just dumb.
Go ahead and roll with that, but you’ll be creating unnecessary tension and raising the danger level, if you ever speak to an officer that way.
Your opinion. I’m telling you what the law says they can’t do.
“Your opinion. I’m telling you what the law says they can’t do.”
Who’s talking about the law? I haven’t challenged Georgia law a single time in this conversation.
What I’ve challenged, is the wisdom of smarting off to a police officer about what weapons you’re carrying, if he asks you that question during a traffic stop.
If you’re a law abiding citizen, you and the cop are natural allies. Why disturb that quiet understanding by displaying a surly attitude? That serves no one.
They are only required to follow the directives of their employer. That employer is the government entity that pays their salaries. You are incidental to the whole transaction.
Apparently your cars were not fast enough. I was in a Ford Mondeo on the M1 in England in the 90s doing about 70 when what I think was a Lamborghini flashed by in a wink of an eye. I'd guess over 120 but maybe more.
Just let them do what they damned well please then, huh?
It’s obvious that I’m not getting through to you. That’s ok. Go on and be right. Just don’t be dead right.
good analysis on your part.
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