[upchuck]

Thank goodness South Carolina, even though we're a coast state, is not included in this madness.

[johniegrad]

They’ll tax both.

[BenLurkin]

East Coast states want to track drivers’ travel

[headstamp 2]

“rather than taxing their gas, as state and federal officials do today”

They’ll do both

[goldstategop]

I sold my car.

Now I depend on my bicycle.

They’re not going screw me out of more money.

[jsanders2001]

In other words they want to tax everything - gas tax AND travel tax. If you give them that they will just back at you in another year or so with even more taxes. Tell them hell no. You’re not going to fund the Agenda 21 BS with your tax $$$ because they will always want more and NEVER be satisfied.

[Yaelle]

Do you have permission to come into this side of town? Let me see your papers!

[kindred]

This is evil and very troubling. How can they charge people for living. Will they charge for breathing air next? Every politician and bean counter who thought this up needs to be put out of America. Pronto.

[taildragger]

They are trying to figure out a way to have income as the traditional fuel might go bye-bye as it displaced by advances in Natural Gas ( CNG LNG etc ) but even more electric, given the potential breakthrough batteries on the horizon ( Store-Dot, Prieto, SiiLion etc ) that will pay No fuel tax for road repair etc.

[Vendome]

Caesar Rodney would be amazed at the shit he rode 70 miles in the rain to ensure wouldn’t happen.

[Vendome]

Delaware is the 1st State.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

But wait a minute. Isn't lower gas tax revenue means that more fuel-efficient cars are on the road, thereby reducing carbon footprint?

This is what leftists want, right?

[Retain Mike]

Here is my letter I sent to Oregon papers on GPS as used recently on the latest effort to collect the gas taxes.

From: Retain Mike
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 12:16 PM
To: Lars Larson (talk@larslarson.com)
Subject: FW: Revised: O-DOT Plus GPS Equals KGB

We appear to have resolved the issue of NSA unrestricted data collection, but the Soviet Union's KGB would have greatly profited from technology placing GPS devices in vehicles for gasoline taxes. The devices provide for limitless personal travel histories with real time and historical vehicle collocations. The KGB could have precisely monitored Known Intelligence Officer (KIO), and key employees with much reduced human resources.

Consider Victor Sheymov who directed KGB cipher communications worldwide, and became the highest-ranking intelligence official to defect. Victor's first objective for escape was contacting a KIO. He circumvented multi-level surveillance included agents posing as foreigners, permanent listening and optical devises in restaurants and hotels, and stationary surveillance by Seventh Directorate "traffic officers" or agents in covert stations with powerful optics.

Such elaborate, labor-intensive methods proved effective because the U.S.S.R. restricted foreign travel. Those from NATO countries could qualify for multiple surveillance teams, and planted vehicle homing devices. Restricted travel meant direction-monitoring towers provided real time vehicle locations. GPS monitoring allows achieving the same objectives without limiting travel.

Just because you are not paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. Is this government intrusion warranted? Victor escaped the Soviet Union, but where do we go?

Tower of Secrets by Victor Sheymov

[wally_bert]

I put nothing past the crowd down on Assembly street nowadays.

If NC adopts something like this ever, SC won’t be far behind.

[eyedigress]

I am 100% travel and 95 (thou it sucks), runs SC.

[palmer]

They won't be able to tax me since I lost my car in a boating accident

[eyedigress]

[Alberta's Child]

For all its flaws, a mileage-based revenue stream is much closer to a true "pay-as-you-go" system. A car that gets 40 mpg causes just as much congestion as one that gets 20 mpg, so there's really no reason why the driver of the 20-mpg car should effectively pay twice as much in taxes as the other one.

If there had never been such a thing as a fuel tax, this would probably not be nearly as controversial among conservatives as it is now.

[Aut Pax Aut Bellum]

I used to do all my own fuel taxes when I had a big rig years ago. You had to track how many miles you drove in each state, how much fuel you purchased in each state and do the math. However, you did not pay for miles accumulated while driving on the toll roads. The idea being, logically, that you were paying for the use of that road directly. Yet cars do-they pay the toll and pay tax on the fuel. Based on this, I see states keeping all existing taxes on fuel and taxing miles driven. They will make some excuse or the other....

[morphing libertarian]

governmental greed

[stylin19a]

eventually, they ALL will be involved in the madness and most probably will NOT do away with the gas tax.