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So, a United States the morning after, or a year after, or a decade after a successful effort to ban "assault weapons" will not be the scene of the "domestic disarmament" favored by prominent communitarian sociology professor Amitai Etzioni. It will be more like Prohibition-era America, but with hidden rifles substituting for stockpiled hooch and 3D printers standing in for moonshiners' stills. And probably a bit more tense.
1 posted on 06/21/2016 8:03:16 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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No. Not 3D printers making limited weapons. Underground machining. Turning those semis into FAs.


2 posted on 06/21/2016 8:05:40 AM PDT by Gaffer
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I assume any such ban would include a restriction on ammunition sales.


3 posted on 06/21/2016 8:10:45 AM PDT by lacrew
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‘Assault weapons’, i.e. fully automatics, have been illegal to privately own, except for certain very specific circumstances, like verified and licensed collectors, since 1934.................................


4 posted on 06/21/2016 8:10:48 AM PDT by Red Badger (Make America AMERICA again!.........................)
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What someone like Piers Morgan will not bother telling you also is that following the 1997 pistol ban in the U.K. (in the wake of Thomas Hamilton’s bloody rampage in Dunblane), people simply made handguns in tire shops and elsewhere and bought them from the Eastern Europe illegal gun trade(certainly did not need expensive Olympic target shooting pistols or rare collection pieces).


5 posted on 06/21/2016 8:11:51 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("You'd see a different game if nobody wore a helmet". NY Rangers' Barry Beck 1983)
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What did they do in Connecticut when ordered to turn them in - or become felons and have the gendarmes knocking down the doors ???

No one complied. Deadlines came and went. (They realized, along the line, that 30% of those gun-owners were law enforcement officers who had them in their private collections.)

the collection scenario didn’t look promising - so it died a silent death.


7 posted on 06/21/2016 8:12:41 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (A Christian is as a Christian does - "By their works...")
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The ‘gun controllers’ will send the police to shoot you and confiscate your property under the guse of asset forfeiture. This has been well rehersed already with other things the govt has banned/outlawed. I suspect tho the police will step things up consdierably since any ‘raid’ will be consider high risk.


8 posted on 06/21/2016 8:13:12 AM PDT by 556x45
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What the gangs of Chicago do - ignore the law.


21 posted on 06/21/2016 8:25:52 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("They Say That Nobody's Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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The author points out that this is not speculation, we have data, and where it's been tried, we have Prohibition all over again:

That gun owners mean what they say in the "assault weapons" context can be inferred from the 5 percent compliance rate achieved by New York's recent registration requirement for such firearms. Or from the 15 percent compliance rate in neighboring Connecticut.

This wide rejection may account for the class warfare aspect of the issue. Authority does not like to be defied, and it gets violent when it happens. And it is running up against a particularly adamant population. That has an irresistible-force-immovable-object aspect to it that should be setting off some alarms in government. The insistence by some that the people will just go along rather than confront authority on the issue seems to me to be demonstrably naive.

22 posted on 06/21/2016 8:26:08 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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What Will Gun Controllers Do When Americans Ignore an ‘Assault Weapons’ Ban?

I'm going to have to go with soil themselves.

28 posted on 06/21/2016 8:32:45 AM PDT by Edward.Fish
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Simple there will be a 6 month long media blitz to demonize us then the raids will begin under the guise of national security and public safety then we all get treated like Ammon Bundy and David Coresh.


31 posted on 06/21/2016 8:37:49 AM PDT by BobinIL
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Worth reading the entire article and the comments.

Ban this, ban that, but nobody specifies how to do it; as in with what legislation, logistics, enforcement, legal system, etc.


32 posted on 06/21/2016 8:38:50 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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I am not a “tin foil” hat type of guy; but I just find it odd with the fast and furious gun walking, the San Bernadino and the Orlando shootings the government was involved or “missed” the opportunity to stop the shootings. Maybe to ultimate goal is to let these things happen so the public demands gun control.
I am afraid public opinion is starting to turn on this issue. My very Conservative wife said she did not think anyone should own an assault weapon. I had to remind her what the second amendment was about. I asked her if the only people with assault weapons were the criminals and government where do people like us stand?
35 posted on 06/21/2016 8:44:02 AM PDT by martinidon
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There will be plenty of ammo made.


37 posted on 06/21/2016 8:45:12 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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Just as citizen driving speed does NOT change when the posted limit is changed - neither will their actions change when bad laws are passed which subvert the US Constitution.

Bad laws (i.e. prohibition) do NOT change citizens behavior, however they instantly turn a large number of citizens into “criminals” and create a massive enforcement problem.

Several years back when Obama threatened Exec. Actions on gun control, the Sheriff’s Association met locally, regionally. then statewide. Their decision conveyed to us locally - they will NOT enforce any Exec. Orders nor Actions which subvert the US Constitution and our 2nd amendment rights.


43 posted on 06/21/2016 8:55:52 AM PDT by CitizenBob
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they’ll happily turn us all into felons, strip us of our civil rights, disenfranchise us, unemploy us and then bring the full weight of the national militarized police force to bear against us.


48 posted on 06/21/2016 9:03:28 AM PDT by RC one
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If all it takes is one terrorist killing 50 people for Democrats to demand a change to American law, I suppose 50 million gun owners should be able to persuade them to change it back swiftly.


56 posted on 06/21/2016 9:11:36 AM PDT by The Toll
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This isn’t a hard question. What happens with all of the other laws that are in place that we ignore? The law is not there to take guns off the street. The law is there to make you into a criminal. Whether it is guns, drugs, taxes, EPA, EEOC, etc. the laws make you a criminal whether or not they are actively enforced. As a criminal you will modify your behavior, maybe you will not speak so openly, maybe you will not run for public office, maybe you won’t try for certain jobs. And that’s fine by the lawmakers it’s exactly what they want.

Interesting to follow this. The law-n-order Freepers are becoming less vocal. Not too long ago you would be lectured on the don’t worry about the law if you dont have anything to hide (usually applied to red light cameras, drugs, taxes, asset seizure).


65 posted on 06/21/2016 9:19:47 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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There isn’t going to be an “assault weapons ban”.


67 posted on 06/21/2016 9:21:15 AM PDT by Jim Noble (The polls can have a strong influence on the weak-minded)
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If I owned real Select Fire Assault Weapon I would ignore it.

I only own a Civilian Semi Auto AR-15, so it doesn’t affect me whatsoever.

I call a Duck a Duck. I don’t call a Goose a Duck.


74 posted on 06/21/2016 9:31:37 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Scandals were Brains, Hillary would be the smartest person on the Planet.)
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Ex post facto laws are Unconstitutional

You cannot charge an abortion doctor with a crime if he performed abortions when they were legal.

And similarly, you cannot charge anyone for owning a product bought legally.

Molon Labe aholes.


77 posted on 06/21/2016 9:35:00 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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