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David Cameron invokes Churchill in 'we stay and fight' plea for Remain vote
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 19 June 2016 | Press Association

Posted on 06/19/2016 11:34:10 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

..."If we choose to leave, we can leave but let's be clear if we do leave we are walking out the door, we are quitting, we are giving up on this organisation which even if we leave will have a huge effect on our lives, our children, on our opportunities, on our businesses," he said .

"I don't think Britain at the end is a quitter. I think we stay and fight. That is what we should do. That is what made our country great and that's how it will be great in the future.

"At my office I sit two yards away from the Cabinet Room where Winston Churchill decided in May 1940 to fight on against Hitler - the best and greatest decision anyone has made in our country

"He didn't want to be alone, he wanted to be fighting with the French and with the Poles and with the others but he didn't quit. He didn't quit on Europe, he didn't quit on European democracy, he didn't quit on European freedom.

"We want to fight for those things today. You can't win, you can't fight, if you are not in the room. You can't win a football match if you are not on the pitch."

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TOPICS: Germany; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: borisjohnson; brexit; brixit; churchill; eu; europeanunion; germany; kenyan; kenyanbornmuzzie; london; nato; nigelfarage; obama; sirwinstonchurcill; trump; ukip; unitedkingdom; winstonchurchill
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To: April Lexington
hy pick that fight with the Germans and the French? -- what is to gain? A lot -- British policy since 1700 has been to prevent any one power or coalition from dominating Europe. To this end they have allied with the Germans against the French, the French against the Germans, the Russians against the Germans, the French against the Russians etc. etc.

The British would prevent the French from dominating. And at the same time they would be able to lead a group of 500 million people.

41 posted on 06/20/2016 2:56:50 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: April Lexington
Will the French lie down? -- the French have been moaning their decline in power for the past decade. They may not lie down, but they have had nothing to do but sputter when opposed by Hungary, leave alone the UK
42 posted on 06/20/2016 2:57:45 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: April Lexington; Berlin_Freeper
Will the Germans suddenly like the English?

They already do -- one of the favorite programs on German TV is an Aussie (ok, Aussie, yes, but to the Germans an Anglo-Saxon) talking about German history to Germans.

The Germans kind of like their peculiar Anglo-Saxon cousins

43 posted on 06/20/2016 2:59:38 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

My country is a confederacy. How it works here is that Alberta pays the bills, gets blamed for everything and is told to shut up.

That would be Britain’s role.


44 posted on 06/20/2016 2:59:45 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Cronos

Oh look, a Pole. Now why do they love the EU so much? Hmm...



45 posted on 06/20/2016 3:02:39 AM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: Berlin_Freeper

he is sounding more and more like the anti-Christ every day.


46 posted on 06/20/2016 3:13:29 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (politicians beware)
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To: April Lexington; Berlin_Freeper
Will the Prussians come back?

Prussia no longer exists -- On 25 February 1947, representatives of the Allied occupation authorities in Berlin signed a law abolishing the state of PRussia

The Prussian state, which from early days has been a bearer of militarism and reaction in Germany, has de facto ceased to exist. Guided by the interests of preservation of peace and security of peoples, and with the desire to assure further reconstruction of the political life of Germany on a democratic basis, the Control Council enacts as follows:
ARTICLE I
The Prussian State together with its central government and all its agencies is abolished.
This was LAw # 46 of the allied control council that expunged Prussia from the map of Europe
47 posted on 06/20/2016 3:24:52 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Churchill must be spinning 360s in his grave


48 posted on 06/20/2016 3:25:15 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: April Lexington; Berlin_Freeper
Screw Europe. Its dying. - the news of its demise has been greatly exaggerated. Western Europe is slowly declining, while Central Europe is rising slightly. Europe is not dead.
49 posted on 06/20/2016 3:25:54 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: April Lexington; Berlin_Freeper
Europe is nothing but museums, muslims and crazy people who have no hope of excellence.

April, your lack of knowledge is showing.

Did you, April Lexington know that the % of Moslems in the EU is 3% -- granted 3% is 3% too high, but hardly "nothing but MOslems"

50 posted on 06/20/2016 3:28:58 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: April Lexington; Berlin_Freeper
iPhone invented in Europe? Nope. Medical advances? nope. Finance? London or New York, matey.

April, your lack of knowledge is showing.

firstly, the iPhone, while a great marketing tool, didn't invent any new component -- there were smartphones and even touch-screen phones before. Apples brought its skills at simplifying existing technologies to fore here

However, let's look at some of the things that were "invented" in the EU -- and look at Apple's predecessor at the top of the mobile phone manufacturers heap: Nokia from Finland was successful for years. Then, Skype was invented in Estonia. You are correct that Europe is nowhere near the US's levels of inventiveness, but one advantage the US has is a huge market, which is what the EU is out to emulate

As for Finance -- you do realise that London is getting a run for its money from Singapore and Dubai. In Europe you have Euronext and Deutsche Bourse behind London.

London is a great financial center, yes, but if the UK leaves the EU, then these days are numbered.

51 posted on 06/20/2016 3:36:26 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: April Lexington
Except for one small detail... the world speaks English and looks to English law for civilization.

The world does not "speak English" -- you do realize that it is third in the number of native speakers after Mandarin and Hindi? And while it is first among total speakers, that has no relevance to "rule the world" -- for centuries Aramaic was the lingua franca even though the Arameans were a conquered people.

Ditto for Hellenic -- the language of initially conquerors, later the conquered became a lingua franca. Ditto for Hejazi -- first they conquered the world but then for centuries were ruled from the Levant and by Turkic peoples

The fact that 400 million people across the world speak english means that the citizens of Britain can't use it as their advantage

52 posted on 06/20/2016 3:41:59 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: April Lexington
Except for one small detail...looks to English law for civilization.

you do realise that only the UK, Canada and Australia and New Zealand use common law exactly? The other pats of the Anglosphere are "based" on common law, but diverge -- and in the case of the US, Louisiana law is based on French civil law

And Scotland does not follow common law either....

53 posted on 06/20/2016 3:45:30 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: April Lexington
Nobody from Britain migrates to Bangla Desh. They come to London

True and many Brits have moved to Spain, Germany, France and even Central Europe. I know many English friends who've moved to Austrlia and New Zealand.

And Bangladesh, Oz, NZ are not in Europe

The fact of the matter is that England once did rule the waves -- quite well indeed -- but that time is over and its time to face realities: the UK does better to co-rule within the EU than to smoulder and disintegrate outside the EU

54 posted on 06/20/2016 3:47:57 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: April Lexington
British culture - Well... its alive and well in the rest of the world, matey! -- firstly, you said "The world is desperate for British culture" -- so the fact of the UK having culturally degenerated means that the font of culture has passed to the US or other countries. Just as when Rome declined, Gallia and Byzantine took on and expanded Roman kultura, so the Roman culture through Franco-Norman and then British culture continues to illuminate

But this is not "British" any more, not any more than it is from Hammurabi (from whence it all originates)

55 posted on 06/20/2016 3:51:09 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: April Lexington
You bought the socialist crap of the 1960’s. We didn’t

And that has no relevance to the point that the UK will decline outside the EU.

What you are arguing is that you want to make England the 51st state. THAT would work, but nothing else besides staying in the EU would work

56 posted on 06/20/2016 3:52:09 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: April Lexington
What can Europe possible have to offer the world? Its a failed state of communal losers who live on the backs of the few productive souls stupid enough to stay for the castles... WAKE UP!!!

Let me repeat what I posted above: The UK already has 24% of employees working in the Public sector -- compare that to Germany with just 15% or France with 20%. The UK's public sector even more than Italys (17%)

And the Scots are unhappy that this number of 24% is after cuts by the tories -- they want it back up to 27%

The UK already has a larger welfare organization than many other EU countries, so what are you talking about?

57 posted on 06/20/2016 3:53:28 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: April Lexington; Berlin_Freeper
as for German might... Look past Europe and see that, but for over-priced cars that fall apart rather regularly, they don’t make much of anything that can’t be sourced elsewhere for substantially less money and better quality.

April, your lack of knowledge is showing. Why does Germany have a trade surplus with China if they don't make much of anything?

Why did it have a $13 billion surplus last year (with all imports-exports)?

In terms of things they make, let's take some

I would suggest you check the exports of Germany before dismissing them

58 posted on 06/20/2016 4:05:54 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: April Lexington; Berlin_Freeper
Germans are the most passive creatures on Earth these days. Here’s the secret... they are terrified of the Russian MEN. So... they want British men to fight for/with them again Russians.

April, do you live in Germany to make that kind of judgement call?

And what gave you the idea that they want British soldiers specifically?

59 posted on 06/20/2016 4:09:24 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Jonty30
If the UK left the EU, then the fate of Alberta (and Norway) would be the UK's -- they'd have to pay and follow the EU rules if they want to trade AND yet they'd have no say in the making of the rules themselves.

right now they do have a say in those rules and a veto power -- if they leave then they have to keep the rules to trade with the EU and they lose any ability to have a say in those rules

60 posted on 06/20/2016 4:11:34 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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