Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Not a good idea. Lists are too easily manipulated by the Feds.
1 posted on 06/15/2016 7:20:03 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-47 next last
To: NKP_Vet

yep. Watch a huge number of Tea Party members go on the “watch” list.

Very very very bad idea.


2 posted on 06/15/2016 7:21:24 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper ((Just say no to HRC))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NKP_Vet

Would not have stopped Omar Mateen. He was cleared.


3 posted on 06/15/2016 7:21:39 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NKP_Vet

I agree. Do you want a list composed by another lois lerner clone?


4 posted on 06/15/2016 7:22:29 AM PDT by Ceebass
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NKP_Vet

Until there is some due process for putting people on watch lists - and for getting them off if mistakenly added, I agree, bad idea.


5 posted on 06/15/2016 7:22:53 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NKP_Vet

NRA will hopefully tell Trump if this is what he wants they are withdrawing their endorsement. Trump is caving to the RINOs.


6 posted on 06/15/2016 7:22:59 AM PDT by NKP_Vet (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NKP_Vet

The problem the NRA and gun owners have with the Terror Watch List is that as it currently exists, the list is secret, any bureaucrat can put anyone on the list for any or no reason, and there is no mechanism in place to find out if you are on the list, why you were put on it, and there is no way to challenge it to get your name taken off it.


7 posted on 06/15/2016 7:23:38 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is always just one or a thousand or a million more murders away from utopia.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NKP_Vet

Not a good idea without a court hearing process for removal from the list.

The feds would but anyone they want on the no fly list for any reason, they have done so before.


9 posted on 06/15/2016 7:24:16 AM PDT by Candor7 ( Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NKP_Vet

What a wonderful idea - because everyone knows how accurate those watch lists are and how easy it is for the wrongfully targeted to get their names removed.


10 posted on 06/15/2016 7:24:31 AM PDT by gdani
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NKP_Vet

That’s a mistake Mr. Trump. This is a sample of what will immediately happen:

“I have just signed Executive order 5632854 to include all Trump supporters and those who attend Church more than twice a year on the no-fly list. It’s for the children.”


11 posted on 06/15/2016 7:24:51 AM PDT by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NKP_Vet

If they did a hundred other things first that actually proved they care about the safety of citizens then I might envision a state that wouldn’t abuse such a list. Until then, no way. They can’t even bring themselves to profile the ones who visually are the most dangerous per actual statistics. Of all people, Trump should grasp this.

Freegards


13 posted on 06/15/2016 7:26:11 AM PDT by Ransomed
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NKP_Vet
I think it was Senator Angus King being asked about this, this morning. He was talking about proposed legislation, and noting that it had to include safeguards or "relief mechanisms" for those put on the list.

This is typical government, it will reverse the presumption of innocence and not bat an eye about it. The so-called safeguard is you have to prove your own innocence. Any set of facts and inferences (no need for support for the inferences) will withstand rebuttal.

The courts are in on the scheme. The so-called "checks and balances" are actually "affirmations and reinforcement."

16 posted on 06/15/2016 7:26:45 AM PDT by Cboldt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NKP_Vet
Yep, sliding people onto “watch” lists means no due process. You will go to the local gun shop to buy a new firearm and come back "denied" because you said liberalism is a mental disorder online, and that is now considered a threat...and good luck getting your name off of it.
19 posted on 06/15/2016 7:27:03 AM PDT by corlorde
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NKP_Vet

Very bad idea. Totalitarians love to make lists, and put their enemies on them.


22 posted on 06/15/2016 7:27:28 AM PDT by NorthMountain (A plague o' both your houses.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NKP_Vet

He will be advised not to do it and to stay away from it.


24 posted on 06/15/2016 7:27:31 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NKP_Vet

Since he announced the meeting I assume he already has a program with the NRA hashed out. My guess? They’ll dress up something already in place and toss it out there.


27 posted on 06/15/2016 7:28:44 AM PDT by JonPreston
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NKP_Vet

My suggestion would be to ban all muslims from buying guns. Even better, ban them from coming here.


28 posted on 06/15/2016 7:28:52 AM PDT by boycott (--s)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NKP_Vet

If you have a twitter account, reply to Trump’s post that this is a bad idea and why.


30 posted on 06/15/2016 7:30:10 AM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012 (q15.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NKP_Vet

Trump is wrong, he needs to ask Obama to address Muslims that they can choose Islam or not. We have the perfect man in Obama who himself chose not to follow his father’s religion, Obama made a choice and he needs to articulate this to the billion or so muslims on earth that they have a choice. Don’t worry about silly assed gun control that appeases Democratic party crazies.


32 posted on 06/15/2016 7:31:03 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NKP_Vet
Bad idea.

DHS thinks that 'right wing extremists' pose as big a threat as Islamic terrorists

If you are a conservative white Christian male veteran, the chances are good you will end up on the list.

34 posted on 06/15/2016 7:31:14 AM PDT by Godebert (CRUZ: Born in a foreign land to a foreign father.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: NKP_Vet

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3440376/posts “ DHS thinks that ‘right wing extremists’ pose as big a threat as Islamic terrorists”

Considering that perspective, the intent would be to abuse the terror watch list. Our individual, God-given right to keep and bear arms would not be negotiable, even if I trusted Obama and the minions who work for him. Given their proven duplicity, this proposal has to be killed.


35 posted on 06/15/2016 7:33:51 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-47 next last

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson