Posted on 05/27/2016 9:37:25 AM PDT by Kaslin
Co-Authored by István Markó
True science requires that data, observations and other evidence support a hypothesis and that it can withstand withering analysis and criticism or the hypothesis is wrong.
Thats why Albert Einstein once joked, If the facts dont fit your theory, change the facts. When informed that scientists who rejected his theory of relativity had published a pamphlet, 100 authors against Einstein, he replied: Why 100? If I were wrong, one would be enough.
In the realm of climate scientism, the rule seems to be: If the facts dont support your argument, talk louder, twist the facts, and insult your opponents. Thats certainly what self-styled global warming experts like Al Gore and Bill Nye are doing. Rather than debating scientists who dont accept false claims that humans are causing dangerous climate change, they just proclaim more loudly:
Our theory explains everything thats happening. Hotter or colder temperatures, wetter or drier weather, less ice in the Arctic, more ice in Antarctica its all due to fossil fuel use.
Climate scientism aggressively misrepresents facts, refuses to discuss energy and climate issues with anyone who points out massive flaws in the manmade climate chaos hypothesis, bullies anyone who wont condemn carbon dioxide, and brands them as equivalent to Holocaust Deniers.
In a recent Huffington Post article, Mr. Nye challenges climate change deniers by claiming, The science of global warming is long settled, and one may wonder why the United States, nominally the most technologically advanced country in the world, is not the world leader in addressing the threats.
Perhaps its not so settled. When the Australian government recently shifted funds from studying climate change to addressing threats that might result, 275 research jobs were imperiled. The very scientists whod been saying there was a 97% consensus howled that there really wasnt one. Climate change is very complex, they cried (which is true), and much more work must be done if we are to provide more accurate temperature predictions, instead of wild forecasts based on CO2 emissions (also true).
Perhaps Mr. Nye and these Australian researchers should discuss what factors other than carbon dioxide actually cause climate and weather fluctuations. They may also encounter other revelations: that climate science is still young and anything but settled; that we have little understanding of what caused major ice ages, little ice ages, warm periods in between and numerous other events throughout the ages; that computer model predictions thus far have been little better than tarot card divinations.
As for Nyes assertions that carbon dioxide has an enormous effect on planetary temperatures and climate change was discovered in recent times by comparing the Earth to the planet Venus those are truly bizarre, misleading, vacuous claims.
The relatively rapid increase in atmospheric CO2 over the last 30 years has produced only 0.2°C (0.4°F) of global warming compared to a 1°C (1.8°F) total temperature increase over the past 150 years. That means the planetary temperature increase has slowed down, as carbon dioxide levels rose. In fact, average temperatures have barely budged for nearly 19 years, an inconvenient reality that even the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) now recognizes.
This is an enormous effect? By now, it is increasingly clear, the proper scientific conclusion is that the greenhouse effect of rising atmospheric carbon dioxide is very minor as a recent article explains. Mr. Nye and his fans and fellow activists could learn a lot from it.
Objective readers, and even Mr. Nye, would also profit from reading a rather devastating critique of one of The Scientism Guys science-is-easy demonstrations. It concludes that the greenhouse effect of CO2 molecules is of course real, but Mr. Nyes clever experiment for Al Gores Climate Reality Project was the result of video fakery and could never work as advertised. When will Messrs. Nye and Gore stop peddling their Hollywood special effects?
For that matter, when will they stop playing inter-planetary games? Mr. Nye and the popular media love to tell us that carbon dioxide from oil, gas and coal could soon turn Planet Earth into another Venus: over-heated, barren, rocky and lifeless. Princeton Institute of Advanced Study Professors Freeman Dyson and Will Happer show that this is utter nonsense.
For one thing, Venus is far closer to the sun, so it is subjected to far more solar heat, gravitational pull and surface pressure than Earth is. If we put a sunshade shielding Venus from sunlight, Dr. Dyson notes, it would only take 500 years for its surface to cool down and its atmosphere to condense into a carbon dioxide ocean. Its not the high temperature that makes Venus permanently unfriendly to life, he adds; its the lack of water.
Second, the amounts of atmospheric carbon dioxide are grossly disproportionate. Earth has barely 0.04% carbon dioxide (by volume) in its atmosphere, whereas Venus has 97% and Mars has 95% CO2. Mars much greater distance from the sun also means it has an average surface temperature of -60°C (-80°F) underscoring yet again how absurd it is to use planetary comparisons to stoke climate change fears.
Third, Earths atmosphere used to contain far more carbon dioxide. For most of the past 550 million years of the Phanerozoic, when multicellular life left a good fossil record, the earths CO2 levels were four times, even ten times, higher than now, Dr. Happer points out. Yet life flourished on land and in the oceans. Earth never came close to the conditions of Venus. And it never will.
Fourth, Venuss much closer proximity to the sun means it receives about twice as much solar flux (radiant energy) as the Earth does: 2637 Watts per square meter versus 1367, Happer explains. The IPCC says doubling atmospheric CO2 concentrations would be equivalent to just 15 W/m2 of additional solar flux. Thats nearly 100 times less than what Venus gets from being closer to the Sun.
Fifth, surface pressure on Venus is about 90 times that of the Earth, and strong convection forces increase the heating of surface air, he continues, making Venuss surface even hotter. However, dense sulfuric acid clouds prevent most solar heat from ever reaching the planets surface. Instead, they reflect most sunlight back into space, which is one of the reasons Venus is such a lovely morning or evening star.
Of course, none of these nerdy details about Earth-Venus differences really matter. We already know plant life on Planet Earth loved the higher CO2 levels that prevailed during the Carboniferous Age and other times when plants enjoyed extraordinary growth.
However, even burning all the economically available fossil fuels would not likely even double current atmospheric CO2 levels to just 0.08% carbon dioxide, compared to 21% oxygen, 78% nitrogen, 0.9% argon and 0.1% for all other gases except water vapor. And doubling CO2would get us away from the near-famine levels for plants that have prevailed for the past tens of millions of years.
Carbon dioxide is absolutely essential for plant growth and for all life on Earth. Volumes of research clearly demonstrate that crop, garden, forest, grassland and ocean plants want more CO2, not less. The increased greening of our Earth over the past 30 years testifies to the desperate need of plants for this most fundamental fertilizer. The more CO2 they get, the better and faster they grow.
More than 70% of the oxygen present in the atmosphere and without which we could never live originates from phytoplankton absorbing carbon dioxide and releasing oxygen. Keep this in mind when Bill Nye The Junk Science Guy tells you carbon dioxide is bad for our oceans and climate.
Dr. Willie Soon is an independent scientist who has been studying the Sun and Earths climate for 26 years. Dr. István Markó is a professor of chemistry at the Université Catholique de Louvain in Belgium and director of the Organic and Medicinal Chemistry Laboratory.
“Spock! You’re out of your Vulcan mind!”
I may have just misattributed that Jim Carey joke to Nye, while recalling his Shatner-Does-Broadway sketch. But I also loved Almost Live. Speedwalker and COPS of Ballard, as I mentioned to Tilted Kilt.
My favorite was “Mind Your Manners with Billy Kwan.”
Ben, welcome to the party! See, SkyDancer and Kaslin I told you that he wouldn't let us down.
Ben Ficklin, renewable energy is called firewood where I live. The only “renewable energy” source that provides electricity for utilities which makes economic sense without massive government subsidies is hydroelectric.
Making candy bars is not actually a power intensive industry, so big whoop! If they actually wanted to make a difference they would by partnering with a tooth paste company or Jenny Craig. Instead Mars is partnering with the bird and bat exterminating wind cartel. This is a combo publicity stunt and way for them to get government subsidies and tax write offs. Candy companies are always looking for some way to improve their image. They normally take a lot of heat for causing tooth decay, obesity, diabetes and heart disease.
In addition there is probably a little government graft taking place and maybe Bill Nye will pretend that he is eating a snickers in between carrots and celery sticks.
You can find lists of companies who have already shifted 100% to renewables or have shifted as much as technically feasible. They all think that burning fossil fuels causes global warming.
No very few think anything of the sort, but they do think that pandering to leftist loons might be good for their bottom line. But as I have responded to you a dozen times before... consensus even if it did exist... is not a scientific argument. I know that supposed consensus is all that you have, but I keep thinking that maybe you will at least do us the favor of citing at least something related to actual observational data one of these days. But thanks for dropping by to help keep us on our toes.
That term “Renewable energy” is a misnomer. Once energy is converted ( goes into heat) it’s gone. You could say, in a way, that hydroelectric power is renewable in that water can be used again further on down stream. But it’s the same water, it wasn’t converted into something else and used for power; you could argue that water converted into steam can be renewed but it took an energy source to do that. Hmm, now if water turned a turbine that made electricity that ran an electric furnace that heated water into steam to do work of some sort but then why bother, just use the electricity water produced in the first place. My head hurts, gonna lay down for a bit.
You make an interesting point about the nature of energy. Hydrocarbon energy buried in the earths crust such as coal and oil are actually the buried remains mostly of plant life and algae from eons ago with some animal matter as well. The plant life and algae used energy from the sun to grow. That energy was converted to biomass and stored underground. So in a sense nearly all hydrocarbon energy is in reality solar power. Your F350 Super Duty Pick-up truck truly is a solar powered vehicle.
Here's a page from Mars' website where there is a 4 min video on their windfarm in Texas.
After you have talked with him, let me know how the conversation went
You know that I love you, but I have no desire to talk to anyone named “Barry Parkin”.
I am concerned about any company pandering to the left at the expense of the environment.
“Bryce reviewed the new steps taken by that agency to extend the length of permits for accidental eagle kills from the current five years to 30 years. The changes would allow wind-energy producers to kill or injure as many as 4,200 bald eagles every year. He also noted that a 2013 study in the Wildlife Society Bulletin, estimated that wind turbines killed about 888,000 bats and 573,000 birds (including 83,000 raptors) in 2012 alone. Who knows how many birds and raptors have been killed since that year because, as Bryce pointed out, the wind industry doesnt have to report bird kills.”
http://www.plasticstoday.com/answer-sustainability-isn%E2%80%99t-blowing-wind/160971034224634
Basically wind farms in the United States kill ten times more birds and bats than the Exxon Valdez oil spill did virtually every single day. "Wind Farms" are "renewable" energy only if you consider the lives of millions of birds and bats as being worth nothing. They are ugly despicable and disgusting bird and bat killing machines.
Same way with Willie Soon who wrote the article above. To be honest with you, I'm shocked that man with Soon's education has fallen to the point that he is writing for the fringe element.
Gratuitous and ad hominem. Try again.
Like lawyers.
Ya got facts and you got laws in every suit.
If the facts are on your side; pound the facts.
If the law is on your side; pound the law.
If neither are; pound the table!
I doubt it...
They all think that NOT burning fossil fuels causes a larger PROFIT in their pockets due to folks who 'want to save the world'.
They will pay EXTRA for the products sold to feel good about something.
I shudda read ahead; again...
1970s’ global cooling:
“The Cooling World”
Newsweek, April 28, 1975
http://www.denisdutton.com/cooling_world.htm
About the size of PARIS?
Likewise; CHOICE kills more future American citizens EVERYDAY than 'terrorists' did on 911!
But just WHO are we worried about?
Remember kids, be like Billy!
On occasion I show my students a Bill Nye episode but I always make sure to tell them that he’s just an actor playing a part. One little boy said “Let’s call him Bill Lies the Science Guy!”
I knew that I could count on you to start calling names when presented with facts and figures. You have gone total Alynski on us once again, but we love you anyway.
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