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Trump: U.S. can never default because it prints money
Politico ^ | 05/09/2016 | Nick Gass

Posted on 05/09/2016 6:09:29 AM PDT by GIdget2004

Donald Trump assailed the media on Monday for what he said was a misrepresentation of his comments on debt, rejecting the notion that he would have the United States default on his debt.

"I said if we can buy back government debt as a discount. In other words, if interest rates go up and we can buy bonds back as a discount, if we are liquid enough as a country we should do that. In other words, we can buy back debt as a discount," the presumptive Republican nominee said in a telephone interview on CNN's "New Day."

Those who said he wants to buy debt and default on it are "crazy," he added.

"This is the United States government. First of all, you never have to default because you print the money. I hate to tell you. So there's never a default. But the point is it was reported in the New York Times incorrectly," he said, referring to a critical Times article that ran on Friday.

That article examined an interview Trump gave to CNBC last Thursday in which he suggested that he could reduce the national debt by persuading U.S. creditors to accept less than full payment.

"It was reported in the failing New York Times and other places that I want to default on debt," Trump said. "You know, I'm the king of debt. I understand debt probably better than anybody. I know how to deal with debt very well. I love debt but you know, debt is tricky and it's dangerous and you have to be careful and you have to know know what you're doing. If there's a chance to buy back debt as a discount, interest rates up and the bonds down and you can buy debt. That's what I'm talking about."

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016issues; currency; default; fed; trump; usdebt
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To: Don Hernando de Las Casas

“When 150,000 people show up on the beach front property on Monday, instead of the usual 2, do you seriously maintain that the price of the property would be unchanged?”

Increased cost of some desirable things would occur briefly in the climate you describe. This is temporary. It is different than systemic inflation, which is not caused by windfalls. The powerball winners do not cause inflation.


101 posted on 05/09/2016 7:36:22 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: GIdget2004

As long as we’re accepted as a reserve currency, Trump’s right... But if that goes away we’re not different than Haiti... or some African hellhole. Everyone would ‘print money’ if they could.


102 posted on 05/09/2016 7:38:38 AM PDT by GOPJ (“What the hell is “conservative” about uncontrolled immigration and corporate trade pacts?”)
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To: Don Hernando de Las Casas

Helicopter money dropped into accounts, which allows only a short window of opportunity for spending; and, will disappear once the expiration date arrives. Forces use it or lose it as an inflation driver at the base of the economy, inflation as a goal advocated by the Fed.

The money dropped on banks was a bad implementation which resulted in increased stock valuation; but, no actual increase in consumer demand and desired business production.


103 posted on 05/09/2016 7:39:57 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: tacticalogic

Then they will be undercut by new domestic manufacturers who want in on the profits they are making.


104 posted on 05/09/2016 7:41:54 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Ozark Tom

Not sure what you’re saying, but printing money causes inflation.


105 posted on 05/09/2016 7:45:25 AM PDT by Don Hernando de Las Casas
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To: cymbeline

Create a debt instrument (An interest bearing Treasury note), and simultaneously print a face value equivalent of currency pushed to the central banks for distribution?


106 posted on 05/09/2016 7:46:53 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Jim from C-Town
Then they will be undercut by new domestic manufacturers who want in on the profits they are making.

Eventually. That isn't going to happen overnight, and may not happen at all if the domestic manufactures don't believe Trump will stay in office and the tariffs will stay in place long enough for them to recoup the cost of investing in new production facilities.

107 posted on 05/09/2016 7:47:41 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: central_va

The money printed is in the stock bubble-—literally.


108 posted on 05/09/2016 7:49:53 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Smokey Stover

The federal government gets about half it’s revenue from the progressive income tax. There is no way tariffs could completely replace that revenue stream so with finacing via tariffs means a smaller leaner federal government. Tariffs would force spending cuts if tariffs replaced the progressive income tax. Now having both tariffs and income tax is not a good idea. The income tax has to go.


109 posted on 05/09/2016 7:51:11 AM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“Increased cost of some desirable things would occur” —Good, you now agree that inflation can come from the printing press.
“briefly in the climate you describe.” Define briefly. Eventually, the effects of printing press inflation are “wrung from the system” as Friedman said.

“This is temporary.” Yes, it is temporary. Unless the printing presses do not stop, of course.

“It is different than systemic inflation, which is not caused by windfalls.” — What causes this systemic inflation? Sowell says ONLY the printing press can. How does across the board inflation occur WITHOUT an increase in the supply of cash? How do suppliers across the board demand and receive more cash if there is not more cash? How does that happen? If they demand, and do not receive, of course the price will drop.

“The powerball winners do not cause inflation.” Well, duh! Winning the lottery is nothing more than a VOLUNTARY REDISTRIBUTION of cash—it changes the money supply but not even one billionth of a penny. Of course it does not cause inflation, just as when I transfer my cash money to my daughter for her allowance does not cause inflation.


110 posted on 05/09/2016 7:52:58 AM PDT by Don Hernando de Las Casas
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To: ken5050

Not everyone can be as brilliant as you. : )


111 posted on 05/09/2016 7:53:46 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Don Hernando de Las Casas

“Good, you now agree that inflation can come from the printing press.”

No.

“Define briefly. “

Money spent.

“What causes this systemic inflation? “

Lack of confidence in government.

I cut out the rest of your post, which was simply episode.


112 posted on 05/09/2016 7:58:32 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

You did indeed agree...

“Increased cost of some desirable things would occur briefly in the climate you describe.”

Let me help you; “increased cost” is synonymous with “inflation.” Synonymous means they’re the same thing.

And you cut the rest of my post because you lack the knowledge to respond.


113 posted on 05/09/2016 8:00:59 AM PDT by Don Hernando de Las Casas
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To: Popman
A 20 % tax on imports would be passed onto to consumer....

Twenty percent of nothing is nothing.

114 posted on 05/09/2016 8:01:09 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Hain't we got all the fools in town on our side? And ain't that a big enough majority in any town?)
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To: Gaffer

“One Trillion + per year! Debt.”

Printed money is not debt. It actually reduces debt. If I owe you $100 and I print a $100 bill to pay you back, my debt is gone.


115 posted on 05/09/2016 8:05:29 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: Don Hernando de Las Casas

The Fed claimed they needed inflation to stabilize the economy. Inflation is too many dollars chasing a limited amount of product. The response to the increased prices would have been increased production; and, more employment to support that expansion.

Financial reserves were allocated to banks so as to incentivize lower interest consumer loans, and also support business expansion as a consequence of increased demand.

What happened instead was bank investment of the monies into commodities and stocks. Artificial higher valuations were the result of too much money chasing the wrong investments. Money is misallocated resulting in a stagnant economy.


116 posted on 05/09/2016 8:09:59 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: aquila48

And that is part of the problem.


117 posted on 05/09/2016 8:10:26 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Don Hernando de Las Casas
"Let me help you; “increased cost” is synonymous with “inflation.” Synonymous means they’re the same thing." They are not. This is also a common misunderstanding. As for knowledge, you know not about what you conjecture. I spent my entire career in this area in study as well as in the real world. There is no point in responding to a one-dimensional argument that stands apart from the reality of history. For your historical consideration that demonstrates (as but one example) that money supply does not lead to inflation in history. Well worth considering. If you still hold this view and want to be persuasive, you will need to emonstrate that it always moves from money supply to inflation. This has not happened historically. https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrongeconomics101/basic-concepts/failure-of-the-quantity-of-money-theory/ Best.
118 posted on 05/09/2016 8:10:33 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: Don Hernando de Las Casas
"Let me help you; “increased cost” is synonymous with “inflation.” Synonymous means they’re the same thing."

They are not. This is also a common misunderstanding.

As for knowledge, you know not about what you conjecture. I spent my entire career in this area in study as well as in the real world. There is no point in responding to a one-dimensional argument that stands apart from the reality of history.

For your historical consideration that demonstrates (as but one example) that money supply does not lead to inflation in history. Well worth considering. If you still hold this view and want to be persuasive, you will need to emonstrate that it always moves from money supply to inflation. This has not happened historically.

Best.

119 posted on 05/09/2016 8:11:52 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: null and void

120 posted on 05/09/2016 8:12:28 AM PDT by Bobalu (Government treats you like a milk cow. If things get tough, they will treat you like a beef cow)
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