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Anybody who knows anything about football and/or is capable of understanding the Ideal Gas Law knows the charges against Tom Brady are fraudulent.

A quarterback wants the footballs to be consistent. He would not want them quickly and haphazardly deflated in a bathroom for a few seconds each.

The pressure of the footballs had absolutely no impact on the outcome of the game. The Patriots beat the Colts easily and outscored them more in the second half.

The air pressure in a football decreases as the temperature drops.

The Wells Report was fraudulent. Goodell was dishonest in his role as opposing party and as arbitrator. The first judge was able to see that and reversed Goodell's suspension.

One of the appeals judges saw it also. The other appeals judges said it did not matter how dishonest Goodell was and how rigged the process was.

Hopefully Tom Brady will appeal and win.

1 posted on 04/26/2016 12:14:32 PM PDT by detective
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To: detective

Amen to that.


2 posted on 04/26/2016 12:16:24 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Trying to destroy the game like the country. The thug image was not enough to steer fans away now they attack the game itself (concussions) and the non-thug component.


3 posted on 04/26/2016 12:18:32 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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translation: We were ALL doing it!


4 posted on 04/26/2016 12:18:46 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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The truth is slowly leaking out about this farce....the NFL totally ignored the Ideal Gas Law because the owners wanted New England cut down a peg. Now that’s it’s dragged out forever they are not happy.


7 posted on 04/26/2016 12:25:50 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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The court case has nothing to do with whether the balls were deflated purposefully or not. That's not a legal issue. The court case had to do with whether the NFL could suspend a player on the say-so of the commissioner alone, without an impartial appeal process. And Brady won because some judge didn't like the way the collective bargaining agreement was written. It's been overturned because another judge decided that it doesn't matter if it's fair or unfair, it's what the union agreed to. If you don't want an asshat making arbitrary decisions as you sole source of appeal then don't sign a contract that says he is the sole source of appeal.

Regarding the punishment, let's face it the Patriots have gotten away with murder and Goodell covered for them. He burned the spygate tapes and he never punished them for using a second audio channel in Brady's helmet to circumvent the cutoff period rule (and Brady knew about that with 100% certainty so don't give me the stuff about him being a quire boy who never participated in the cheating).

This last episode, though minor, was the straw that broke the camel's back. The pats made Goodell look like their chump one time too many. Ironically, Goodell still looks like a chump but that's because he's an incompetent PC fool, not because of the Patriots.

9 posted on 04/26/2016 12:28:12 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (ui)
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With all due respect--

I started my football career as a freshman in high school, as the passer on a team that ran the football. I could throw hard and put the ball where I needed it to be.

But I have small enough hands that every now and again; sometimes when it was wet; the ball would get away from me.

For practice during the week, we took a little pressure off the balls; I never had a problem in practice.

For years, even today, in pickup games, I like to play with a little softer ball.

If I could have played throughout my career with a softer ball, I would have been a quarterback in the NFL. I thought it would be cheating to do that.

13 posted on 04/26/2016 12:31:57 PM PDT by David
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Personally, I’m over deflategate. It ended up hurting the league, becoming too much of a distraction. If I were Goodell, I would call Brady in, tell him to drop any further appeal, and reduce the suspension to one game. The main point has been proven, that Goodell can do whatever the hell he wants under the collective bargaining agreement. No need to cost the league money and fans. End it.


14 posted on 04/26/2016 12:35:17 PM PDT by Defiant (The Shills are alive, with the sound of Cruz-ick....)
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A quarterback wants the footballs to be consistent. He would not want them quickly and haphazardly deflated in a bathroom for a few seconds each.

Not to mention he was MVP in the Super Bowl a couple of weeks later with presumably properly-inflated footballs. This whole thing was BS. If anything, it makes the Colts look like sore losers for bringing it up after their shellacking.

15 posted on 04/26/2016 12:35:38 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ('''Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small''~ Theodore Dalrymple)
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It’s all hooey. If the NFL were such sticklers for ball inflation, they would have high paid Inflation Officials who pass out officially NFL certified inflated balls before each and every play. This entire fiasco is making the NFL look like the fools they are.


18 posted on 04/26/2016 12:39:01 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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Goodell is a power-mad idiot. Any competent scientist would scoff at the alleged evidence for deflation.


20 posted on 04/26/2016 12:40:52 PM PDT by RossA
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The Pats scored more points AFTER the under-inflated balls were changed.

Some advantage. The whole thing is ridiculous.


22 posted on 04/26/2016 12:42:44 PM PDT by PGR88
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No the real point is you want article III courts sticking their noses in football. The decision was correct. It is not the courts business.


24 posted on 04/26/2016 12:45:35 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.wl)
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Waahhh...

Don’t like the ruling, quit watching the NFL.


34 posted on 04/26/2016 1:11:56 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Ride To The Sound Of The Guns.)
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I'm a Bills fan. I hate the Dolphins and the Patriots.

But this is bogus. The Patriots won the second half, when the balls were properly inflated.

Total BS.

That said, I'm glad Brady will miss the first Bills game. What was interesting is that Brady renegotiated his salary down for next year in anticipation of the fine. Great move!

35 posted on 04/26/2016 1:14:03 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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When the wimps at the Colts organization first made these accusations, the first thing I thought of were the officials. Who handles the ball(s) more than the Center and the QB? And yet none of the officials ever brought this up in the previous decades? Please.


37 posted on 04/26/2016 1:17:42 PM PDT by Let's Roll ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality" -- Ayn Rand)
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Tom Brady gay photo: tom brady is gay bradytat2.jpg "Sorry baby. I'm a ball handler."
39 posted on 04/26/2016 1:24:58 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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A quarterback wants the footballs to be consistent. He would not want them quickly and haphazardly deflated in a bathroom for a few seconds each.

This, of course, assumes that his "deflator" agent didn't spend 8-9 seconds deflating every practice ball for practice. If he could spend a little time consistently doing that before every practice, what exactly would be inconsistent when it came to games?

The pressure of the footballs had absolutely no impact on the outcome of the game. The Patriots beat the Colts easily and outscored them more in the second half.

In the 2nd half, the Pats scored once on a short-drive TD set up by an interception; on that drive, Brady threw no passes.

Take away that defensive-set-up TD, the Pat offense scored on 3-of-5 drives in the 2nd half; in the first half, the Pat offense scored on 3-of-5 drives (so the same in terms of scoring drives)

Secondly, take away a 30-yard Brady pass to Vereen in the first half (if Vereen wasn't able to hold on to such a softened ball in pelting rain), and the Pats wouldn't have scored that drive.

No score that drive, puts the Pats up 10-7 at half instead of 17-7.

It was only when the Colts were down 17-7 that they essentially abandoned their ground game, which, up until then, was gaining 5 yards a pop.

In a pelting rain, the ground gain is essential.

'Twas the two-score lead that moved the Colts out of the ground game...dangerous to do in such weather.

Would the Colts still have lost? Perhaps. Would the game have been closer minus the softened balls? Probably.

Anybody who knows anything about football and/or is capable of understanding the Ideal Gas Law knows the charges against Tom Brady are fraudulent.

Deflategate report’s science holds up - http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/2015/05/06/physics-professor-deflategate-report-science-holds/T2HqI3vFVivr9grXOD2VEI/story.html Yes...deflategate report correct on its science; Pats on the other hand grasping for straws:

A Freeper last year was citing the "Ideal Gas Law" angle last year...yet...

...University professor Martin Schmaltz....the discrepancies between drops in pressure between the Colts balls and the Patriots balls was likely too much to be chance, according to Schmaltz. “I see that the Colts’ balls pressure dropped about half a PSI and the Patriots balls seem to be more like 1.5, or maybe between one and 1.5,” says Schmaltz. “So it’s a little mysterious why the Patriots’ balls dropped more.”

(Well, not so "mysterious" when you have an equipment mgr who actually...truly...nicknamed himself "the deflator")

Continuing that link excerpt: According to the report, the Patriots’ balls began the game inflated to at least 12.5 PSI, while the Colts’ balls were around 13 PSI, give or take a tenth of a PSI. But it’s not the drop in PSI from that reference point that Schmaltz says looks bad for the Patriots, but the drops relative to each other. According to Schmaltz, the ideal gas law equation suggests a drop in temperature from 68 or 70 would produce a drop of less than 1 PSI in a ball inflated to 12.5 or 13 PSI. While the report found the Colts’ balls measured at or around the league-minimum 12.5 PSI at halftime, many of the Patriots balls were a PSI or more below that threshold, a drop so large its unlikely to have been caused by atmospheric conditions. While a 12.5 PSI ball could drop to 11.6 PSI, by his calculations, with a temperature drop from 68 or 70 degrees to 51, given both sets being subject to the same conditions, it’s suspicious the Patriots’ balls would drop so much further.

And here we had all these FREEPERcheaterapologists in January & February of last year providing defenses for cheating by citing "science"...yet never could address why the 51-degree weather failed to similarly impact the Colts' footballs...

I think these FREEPERs would make good cheater apologists explaining why it tends to be dead DEMOCRATS who vote...or why it's living DEMOCRATS who seem to vote early & vote often...

44 posted on 04/26/2016 2:21:03 PM PDT by Colofornian
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I read the report when it first came out and could see it was an attempted railroading. The NFL didn’t have any sort of consistent way to measure the footballs that was fair and accurate. They only measured a few of the Colts balls and found one that was below the legal limit.


48 posted on 04/26/2016 2:34:23 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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Somebody forgot to tell the judge.


59 posted on 04/26/2016 4:09:49 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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Roger Goodell admitted today that Deflategate was not about the actual infraction, but about the collective bargaining agreement. Brady just happened to be in the wrong place at the right time. Aside from the science showing that this case was a farce, Goodell is SAYING in public that this was never about PSI.


65 posted on 04/28/2016 4:08:11 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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