Posted on 04/24/2016 6:22:49 AM PDT by Nextrush
Now will we grasp that the United States is not our friend, but a foreign country whose interests are often different from ours?
President Obama's blatant intervention in our internal affairs is not a sudden breach of a soppy 'special relationship'. The USA's only real special relationship is with Saudi Arabia, a 70-year old hard pact of oil, money and power, welded together with such cynicism it out to make up gasp.
Barack Obama's open desire for us to stay inside the EU is by no means the first or worst example of White House meddling here in these islands. Bill Clinton forced us to cave to the Provisional IRA in 1998 and his successor, George W. Bush, continued the policy by making us to Sinn Fein's bidding afterwards.
Washington came close to scuppering our recapture of the Falklands in 1982. And with the current state of our Armed Forces, which can nowadays do nothing without American support, I often wonder how the White House and the Pentagon would behave if Argentina once again seized Port Stanley.
If anyone thinks Hillary Clinton is a great friend of Britain, they're in for a big surprise.
But surely the Americans fought with us should to shoulder against the Kaiser and Hitler? Not exactly. The USA (quite rightly) fought for its own interest in both great wars, not for us.
When we ran out of money after the First World War, Washington seized the chance to force us to limit our Navy, and so began to overtake us as the world's major naval power. We had feared Germany would do this. It is one of the great ironies of history that the USA ended British sea power.
In the blackest months of the Second World War, just after the fall of France.....
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Oh, for crying out loud.
Obama is a jackass.
If it took Hitchens seven and a half years to figure that out, then he is not nearly as smart as he thinks he is.
There is good and there is evil. There is a bit of conflict here in that what is good to one man may be evil to another. What is considered evil now may once have been good and vice versa and which-is-which also is in the eye of the beholder. What happened in the past has molded the present and we can do nothing about it. What we can do is what we perceive as good today. We must note that the future my consider us wrong, or at least some portion of that future will consider what we do today as evil. If the portion that considers our good of today wrong is Muslim, I’m okay with that. Islam is the problem we face today. If we do what I consider good, then the future may lament its passing, but they too will be wrong. I’m okay with that as well.
Pete. The usurper is on the way out. Loosen up dude.
The British should do what they think best for their country. I wish them well. Obama doesn’t speak for me.
Your 'greatest evil in the world today' is having trouble defending itself against a few barefoot Houthis.
I don't intend to be rude but this developing trend of absurd exaggeration as a way of demonstrating your passionate concern is *very* SJW like. We can adopt some of the enemy's tactics but please, not that one.
If they leave the EU, Germany will finally take over Europe. Churchill warned against this. He said the EU should be built by the English or tyrany would be the inevitable result.
Do not confuse America with the errors of the Obama administration or the Bush administration. Americans await the election of a real American president again. There has not been one since Reagan.
I’m rereading Paul Scott’s great opus The Jewel in the Crown as well as watching the remarkable television show based upon it. For those who don’t know it, it’s a quartet of novels about the British in India during WWII and the end of the Raj. One of the most painful examinations of colonialism ever written.
Rather.
Hey, Hitch, sod off. You wanted this nimrod in office well, you got him in all his glory.
> Washington came close to scuppering our recapture of the Falklands in 1982.
We provided scads of logistical and intelligence support. Plenty of stories attesting to this over the years.
Oh, please. You’d have to look long and hard to find a SJW on FR. One little criticism of Great Britain does not a SJW make. Meanwhile, Americans who enjoy reading British newspapers are awash in hatred toward everything about America - our culture, our southland, our laws, our Constitution and amendments, our food. It must be lapped up by the people because it never seems to stop. And it’s not just The Guardian - it goes from left to right to center left to center right and it never takes a break. So try and put up with one little criticism here on FR.
I took two courses in college in the 70s covering that area, 20th Century US Diplomatic History and WW2 History, but don't recall any such speculation. I'll research that some more to refresh my memory but another way of looking at that is the treaty merely delayed that which was going to occur anyway. If that's so, the benefit of hindsight says we'd have been better off dealing with Germany earlier rather than later. What are your thoughts in that vein?
The house of saud having trouble defending itself does not mean it cannot fund terror and extremism elsewhere
Without the money of the kingdom you don’t have 9/11. You don’t have ISIS.
The USA’s only real special relationship is with Saudi Arabia, a 70-year-old hard pact of oil, money and power, welded together with such cynicism it ought to make us gasp.
The House of Bush and the house of Saud stand because of this "special" relationship. Yes, before fracking we needed the oil, but it is time for this relationship against the People of the U.S. to come to an end. It is time for the U.S. to stop defending one of the most backward authoritarian regimes in the world.
And the British Empire was not all bad. Where the empire went so went one of the greatest of all human institutions, the British common law. It even came here and undergirds our Constitution and Bill of Rights. A lot of the lack of resistance to the British Empire was because the common law provided far improved justice in regions formerly ruled by corrupt and arbitrary dictators. Mohatma Ghandi and Nelson Mandela lived, survived, and ultimately prevailed in their views because of British common law.
We should pull out on the UN and throe them them out of the US. Cancel all agreements
And you don’t have the Bushes and their circle of anti-American friends.
When done, take a gander at the Brits actions with China especially the opium wars.
There is almost no problem in the world today in which one cannot find its root somewhere in the old empire.
As far as the brits Navy went, it was hardly the US that put it at a disadvantage to the Nazis in the Atlantic and the Japs in the Pacific prior to WWII. If it were not for the sea supply of Britain by the US before and during our involvement in WW2, they would have folded.
As far the the US doing things in its interests, so what? That was how we USED to do things. Today we wring our hands over things we do based on how other nations view them. What a change.
For grins watched Patton last night, again. Watched A Bridge Too Far last week. Put them together and you get a clear picture of their land fighting IQ. I do respect Gen Alexander of theirs from WWII, but surely not Montgomery.
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