Posted on 04/23/2016 1:02:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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Securing the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity is our mission on FR.
We cannot secure the blessings of liberty with Hillary in the White House.
When Trump wins the lion's share of the primary votes, states and delegates and the establishment installs someone else as the candidate, you've handed the election to Hillary.
Trump is the only anti-establishment candidate in the race and has won the lion's share of votes, states and delegates and is on track to continue amassing the lion's share of the votes, states and delegates by direct vote of the people.
We the People have voted and are voting to finally wrest control of our government from the entrenched corrupt establishment, aka, the uni-Party.
Cruz, Kasich, et al are mathematically eliminated and cannot win the nomination per the voters. They can attempt to re-wrest the nomination away from Trump and away from We the People only by corrupt establishment treachery at the convention. And that will split and destroy the party and guarantee a Hillary win.
NeverTrump is a losing proposition and will lead to a loss of liberty and loss of country.
This is totally unacceptable.
After the corrupt establishment losing twice in a row to Marxist Obama, I'm damned tired of the corrupt establishment and damned tired of losing.
If you are a NeverTrump type person, you are working against our purposes on FR, so please opus out now and log off and let us carry on with our mission in peace.
Continue insulting us with 24/7 anti-Trump diatribes and insults, your opus will be assumed.
We will unite behind our nominee and we will win this coming election (with or without you) and we will get a handle on this divided forum very soon.
Hope you understand my position.
By the way, Cruz's campaign still refuses to answer the question whether or not Cruz will support Trump if he's the nominee. He's taking the GOPe route of preferring Hillary over Trump. This is also totally unacceptable.
...and Roosevelt
Yes, it’s serious & it’s not only historians...
That Cruz will never be the nominee. At best he is being used and played to stop Trump. If it goes beyond the first ballot (which Cruz cannot win mathematically) then it will be someone else.
Ideally, that sounds right, but practically, it's a little more complicated than that.
You see, Cruz has joined with the GOPe in piling on Donald Trump and their unending campaign of character assassination against him. For God's sake, this unprincipled man played the race card against Trump, following the lead of the Media and GOPe. There's nothing sleazier and more lowdown than that. And that was just the beginning.
So don't try to place the two perspectives on equal footing, because they categorically are not.
Out of courtesy to JimRob, I'm not declaring myself "NeverCruz". But if Ted Cruz somehow manages to steal the nomination from Donald Trump (and it will be with the full assistance of the GOPe), then I'm going to have a very tough moral dilemma to face, because, unlike Donald Trump, it's abundantly clear that Ted Cruz does not deserve the GOP nomination under any circumstances.
In that eventuality, even the act of me holding my nose to vote for the unprincipled, naked opportunist that is Ted Cruz, would not be able to compensate for the fact that 1) The GOP would irreparably splinter , 2) Voter enthusiasm would be destroyed, 3) countless Trump voters would stay home (basic psychology), and 4) Hillary would win November in a landslide.
What astounds me is that, from the Cruz fanboy point of view, that is Cruz's best case scenario! And Cruz's best case scenario is the GOP convention's (and the country's) worst case scenario.
Are you starting to get the picture?
Can you simply follow Ted Cruz's strategy from here forward to its logical conclusion?
Now answer me: how, in God's name, could any conservative American want to gamble on that scenario?
God forbid.
Thus, I submit to you that both Ted Cruz and his fanatical scorched earth supporters are being disloyal to their own grassroots and party (which Cruz has shown since Chicago), not to mention being willing to sacrifice the country's future on the altar of Ted Cruz's egotism and narcissism.
So you can put me down, reasonably and logically, as as close to "NeverCruz" as humanly possible, without actually being so.
Conversely, the "NeverTrump" hysterical haters have no leg to stand on. They have long ago ceded the moral high ground. The only question is exactly how far Ted Cruz's humiliation must go before he wakes up (along with his fanboys), and how much damage will have been guaranteed at that juncture.
Ted Cruz, to quote Jim Robinson, is a traitor to the grassroots.
The Revolution fails without Trump.
Vote Trump
Actually, my point (which I’ve made several times) is that when a Republican contender reaches 1,237 delegates, he will be the nominee...it will happen prior to or at the convention...that is unless you want to troll the forum by arguing a rule change so that less than a majority wins. Go for it, Shrimp!
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If that happens, then so be it, but the process, as always, should play out rather than you anoint someone king...
hillary probably already has a judge set to state he is not eligible, just in case Cruz is the nominee.
Right ON Jim!
President Bernie is not acceptable either!
That’s what I like to hear...
http://powderedwigsociety.com/eligibility-of-cruz-and-rubio/
VIDEO: THIS is why Cruz and Rubio didn’t attempt to have a court decide their eligibility in the past. They would have been ruled ineligible!
Jim,
Everyone is focused on the Presidential race.........
but, what about the Congressional races. Nobody is talking who is running for Congress. This could be a BIG mistake. Assuming that Trumps wins, he will need the backing of a Republican Congress. Without it we will not resolve the mess were in. Would like to see more on those Republicans entering Congressional races and who they will support for President.
Jim Robinson himself, last weekend, reposted, as an article, a very well researched post which fully puts the lie to the "Trump is not now nor ever has been a Conservative" smear.
You would do well to review it, as it would probably disabuse you of the propaganda you just parroted.
Vite Trump
HOORAY JimRob. The ‘rats are on the run. There are a lot of ‘rats. The cockroaches are scurrying from Trump’s light. There are a lot of cockroaches.
Just made my day!
Now that's some outright hysterical slander...
One of the best zots EVAH!
I am looking for clarity here - (despite my typos).
The two questions I asked are simple and direct.
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*Snort*
No, you’re being passive-aggressive.
Stop whining and either A: Deal with it, or B: Opus out.
“2) In the event that the nomination process goes to a second or third ballot and Ted Cruz wins the nomination, are you prepared to make a similar statement?”
Nobody needs to know that now. That is not where we are now. Let’s deal with the reality as it is now.
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