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Path to certain failure: NeverTrump + NeverCruz = NeverWin = LostSCOTUS = LostFreedom = LostNation

Posted on 04/13/2016 2:36:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Captain obvious here again, but NeverTrump/NeverCruz is not the way. We all have our favorites, but don't lose sight of the mission.

The mission on FR is to secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our POSTERITY!!

It's a lot bigger than you or me or our personal opinions or egos. It's about the very survival of our nation and the promise of freedom for future generations.

Reagan said that freedom is never more than one generation from extinction and he was 100% correct.

President Clinton or President Sanders means the end of freedom in America.

Do not let freedom expire on our watch!!

Free Republic will support our Republican nominee whoever he is against the godless Marxist/socialist Democrats in November!!


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To: higgmeister; plewis1250

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Balderdash!

Delegates are not the Washington establishment. They are local political activists. They work for the good of the people in most cases, which is why they are presently rejecting candidates that the MSM are shoving in our faces.

Most of them are quite amenable to Cruz, because they have just witnessed the way that the MSM have tried to bypass and destroy him and substitute one of their own, whom they have groomed and advanced through the primary.

The mendacious farce is the “billionaire” that they wish to use to destroy our chance at a conservative victory.
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381 posted on 04/13/2016 11:01:55 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Boardwalk

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Cruz does not need the apparatus of the GOP machine.

He knows how to run his own campaign, and has done so.

The GOP machine is standing by to replace him with another if he should stumble. I don’t think he will.


382 posted on 04/13/2016 11:05:56 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Like Cruz, you misunderestimate the irretrievable loss of “good will” Cruz is self-inflicting with every underhanded delegate maneuver.

Oh, Cruz can cite “the rules,” but disenfranchised voters don’t give a rip about RNC rules.

Voters will only care that their votes didn’t matter.

Cruz can play chess all by himself and his scant following.

Say “Congratulations President Hillary.”


383 posted on 04/13/2016 11:06:50 PM PDT by onyx (You're here posting, so sign-up to DONATE MONTHLY!)
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To: onyx

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You simply have no understanding of election politics.

I have been involved since I was a teenager. (I worked in the Goldwater campaign)

What is going down is nothing new.

Hillary stands no chance against Cruz. Bernie would likely be a harder candidate to beat; he doesn’t have the personal stink factor like Hillary and Trump do.

Hill and Donnie have the masses aligned against them.
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384 posted on 04/13/2016 11:15:19 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
In the fall of next year, the 70th week of Daniel’s prophecy begins. seven years after that, the “governments of men” come to an end, forever.

The bible I own, and the myriad translations at my fingertips are quite clear about warning against setting times and dates.

No man knows the time, nor did the Son of Man know the time which the Father has put into His own Authority.

The destiny of this nation, unlike others before us, was in our own hands. That was made clear by the numerous writings of the Framers and Founders.

As to being an effective witness, I've lived in the slums with persecuted brethren to minister to them and preach the Gospel to those who have never heard the Name of Yeshua. The warning and comment I gave above is not out of fear.

In honesty, it is out of disgust and regret. This people will NOT endure what our brethren endure on a daily basis in the third world. Not with their faith intact.

385 posted on 04/13/2016 11:20:29 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: editor-surveyor

So you anonymously claim ... LOL.


386 posted on 04/13/2016 11:23:15 PM PDT by onyx (You're here posting, so sign-up to DONATE MONTHLY!)
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To: onyx; editor-surveyor
GOPe = #nevertrump

Seems fitting that an unnaturalized candidate (like Obummer) would be the one to implode the (R) Party and strike a fatal blow to the Republic...


387 posted on 04/13/2016 11:27:32 PM PDT by Veracious Poet (RIP GOPe 1854-2016)
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To: INVAR

“As to being an effective witness, I’ve lived in the slums with persecuted brethren to minister to them and preach the Gospel to those who have never heard the Name of Yeshua. The warning and comment I gave above is not out of fear.

In honesty, it is out of disgust and regret. This people will NOT endure what our brethren endure on a daily basis in the third world. Not with their faith intact.”

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God bless your work for the Lord. I met some Christians from China and they were discussing the huge boom in Christianity under their persecution. When the western missionaries went back in after China was opened up again they figured all the Christians would be gone. They found millions instead! They thrived under persecution!

The one guy said “So in China, we pray that you Americans will be persecuted so that your faith will increase.”

Afterwords I went up to him and said “Thank you for thinking of us and your prayers. But can you knock it off!” We laughed. (Well he did. I sort of did.)

He is right though. So often our faith gets stronger when that is the only thing left to rely on.


388 posted on 04/13/2016 11:28:20 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: editor-surveyor

You’re nuts!


389 posted on 04/13/2016 11:31:40 PM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: NorthMountain; Jim Robinson

“Then the feces-flinging got started. Trump himself has a lot of feces-flinging to apologize for if that’s going to happen.”

I have been repeating over and over again, the ticket is going to be Trump/Cruz.

Do you remember, “Voodoo Economics”? They kissed and made up and were on the ticket together. ;-)


390 posted on 04/13/2016 11:32:51 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Why does every totalitarian, political hack think that he knows how to run my life better than I?)
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To: editor-surveyor
You may have licked envelopes in the Goldwater campaign, but you still don't have a feeling for politics, nor the knowledge of how Hillary easily beats younger once lawyer pols.

Rick Lazio is a MUCH better debater than Ted and he can think on his feet, which Cruz is incapable of doing!

Hillary WILL destroy Cruz in less than 2 minutes flat, in any presidential debate!

The masses are NOT for Cruz! If they were, he would NOT now be trailing Trump so badly.

Trump has won more than double the number of states than Ted and in the next few weeks that lead will greatly expand.

Ted is unappealing to the vast majority of the populace, the new people that Trump has brought in shan't vote for Cruz, and IF you choose to discount the facts that I have posted, you are a bigger fool than I think you are, already.

391 posted on 04/13/2016 11:38:14 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

Pat Buchanan is also leaning in the direction of a Trump/cruz ticket. I get it, and Cruz is 45 with plenty of time. If it’s the only way to go so be it.


392 posted on 04/13/2016 11:39:29 PM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: Veracious Poet



Veracious Poet


393 posted on 04/13/2016 11:51:47 PM PDT by onyx (You're here posting, so sign-up to DONATE MONTHLY!)
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To: nopardons; editor-surveyor

B T T T ! ! ! ©

394 posted on 04/13/2016 11:53:37 PM PDT by onyx (You're here posting, so sign-up to DONATE MONTHLY!)
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To: editor-surveyor; onyx; Jane Long; miss marmelstein; 20yearsofinternet; tirednvirginia; PJBankard; ..
Without Kasich, Cruz would have been over 60%. Your bitterness glows in the dark!

Your delusional stupidity glows far brighter than any super nova.
395 posted on 04/13/2016 11:56:24 PM PDT by mkjessup (The GOPe IS the "Enemy Within" !!)
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To: Jim Robinson

bttt


396 posted on 04/13/2016 11:57:03 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a Simple Manner for a Happy Life :o)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you Jim! Well said, and needed to be said.

The way people passionately attack Cruz or Trump, you would think that they *want* a Hillary presidency, just out of spite!


397 posted on 04/14/2016 12:01:53 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Jim Robinson

I agree wholeheartedly!


398 posted on 04/14/2016 12:04:00 AM PDT by hawaiianninja (Palm note to self: "Prepare for some serious 2016 house cleaning. Trump/Cruz or Cruz/Trump 2016!")
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To: willk
I don’t understand the animosity with nevertrump or nevercruz.

I would say trolls are among us in this forum who like to instigate a lot of in-fighting. I don't doubt that some go way back when this forum began. It also doesn't help that we are humans with two sides of a brain; so, as conservative as some of us "feel" or "think" we are, we tend become very emotional and passionate, and tend to write some very dumb "liberal" things as a result.
399 posted on 04/14/2016 12:11:46 AM PDT by hawaiianninja (Palm note to self: "Prepare for some serious 2016 house cleaning. Trump/Cruz or Cruz/Trump 2016!")
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To: editor-surveyor
Cruz has sewed up the second ballot, and the primary is not even over, no convention dickering will be needed.

Delusions of grandeur, but let's just take your thinking out a bit:

The math: Trump, if he doesn't go over the top in the first ballot, will likely be less than a hundred delegates short, likely around 50 or less.

Cruz, will have somewhere between 800 and 900 delegates going in, likely closer to 800. That's if the next two weeks go as forecast, and these states are actual votes that the pollsters have been pretty good at.

Okay, so with that math going in, how does Cruz ever win? Answer: Two ways.
1. He is so well liked, and so compelling, he finally pulls the GOP together and they all go kumbayah and vote him over the top.
2. He cuts a deal with the GOP elites, they pull out all the stops, ram him through, and have a newly minted, newly bought candidate.

So.....since we all know #1 will never happen, the math alone should give you a hint (along with his not so likable personality), that means the only way he wins is with scenario #2.

If he does that, and it will be clear if he does that to win, it will be known, it will be obvious, and it will put a fissure in the party that will blow it out of the water worse than the Whigs were.

If that happens, say goodbye to your ass as it flies further away from you. If that happens Ted Cruz will be hated on the right, by members of the right for a generation or more.

I realize you can't see this, and thankfully it looks like Trump WILL get the delegates to go over the top on the first ballot.

If he doesn't stop after this next two weeks when he is mathematically eliminated, good luck getting Cruz elected to dog catcher after this run.

400 posted on 04/14/2016 12:12:36 AM PDT by Lakeshark (One time Cruz supporter who now prefers Trump. Yes, there are good reasons.)
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