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N.J. judge hears challenges to Cruz eligibility
philly.com ^ | Maddie Hanna

Posted on 04/11/2016 12:20:43 PM PDT by RoosterRedux

A New Jersey administrative law judge on Monday heard two challenges to GOP presidential candidate Ted Cruz's eligibility to appear on the New Jersey ballot, based upon the Texas senator's birthplace in Canada.

The judge, Jeff Masin, didn't decide the challenges to Cruz's eligibility to appear on the June 7 primary ballot, but said he would issue a decision Tuesday. The decision is expected to be reviewed by Lt. Gov. Kim Guadagno, who is New Jersey's secretary of state.

One of the challenges was brought by three South Jersey citizens, and the other by a law professor who lives in Maryland and is running for president as a write-in candidate in New Jersey. Both parties argued that because Cruz was born in Canada, he is not a natural-born citizen, making him ineligible for the presidency.

Cruz's mother was born in Delaware, while his father was born in Cuba. The senator released his birth certificate in 2013.

Shalom Stone, a New Jersey attorney representing Cruz, argued that the citizens - Fernando Powers of Blackwood, Donna Ward of Mantua, and Bruce Stom of Winslow Township - and Prof. Victor Williams didn't have standing to challenge Cruz's candidacy. Stone also said the state didn't have authority to decide the question.

As for "natural-born citizen," Stone said the words in the U.S. Constitution "have meaning given to them by English common law" at the time of their adoption. He directed Masin to his brief for cases supporting Cruz's position.

(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: birther; birthers; cruz; desperatedonald; repositorycruz; trump
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To: jospehm20

My sister was born in 1944. She had dual citizenship until she opted to cancel it.


81 posted on 04/11/2016 1:35:13 PM PDT by BillM (.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Unless he was naturalized as a US citizen after renouncing his Canadian citizenship. Or at some other time, which would be even more cloudy.


82 posted on 04/11/2016 1:35:57 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: Rational Thought

Just as almost all the court cases about 0bunghole’s non-eligibility were. “No standing” so no discovery, no judging on merits, etc.


83 posted on 04/11/2016 1:37:10 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: dforest
He is going to get knocked to the curb for fraud.

Keep on dreaming...

84 posted on 04/11/2016 1:38:49 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: little jeremiah; All
Like Trump says, if we don't have a secure and defended border, we are not a country.

Same thing applies to the Constitution.

If we don't secure and defend the legal borders laid out by the Constitution, we are likewise not a country.

85 posted on 04/11/2016 1:38:52 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (When a man loves cats, I am his friend and comrade, without further introduction. - Mark Twain)
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To: dforest
FWIW, Judge Pellegrini in Pennsylvania got past the "jurisdiction and standing" hurdles, and took on the case, on the merits. His opinion is a joke, he cites articles, not case law. Whichever side had more articles, won.

I think the IL Election Board also got past the question of standing, but it's opinion was even worse than Pellegrini's.

The Pennsylvania Supreme Court issued a three line affirmation of Pellegrini's opinion - zero remarks on the rule of law.

The Illinois case died when the objector failed to serve Cruz personally, with notice of the suit.

86 posted on 04/11/2016 1:39:13 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: RoosterRedux

And we’re teetering at the edge right now, on a crumbling cliff, trying to hold on to a small branch.


87 posted on 04/11/2016 1:40:29 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: CA Conservative
Heh heh heh. An unsourced quote talking about something the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported.

NO original source documents nor attribution.

Slime. It's the Cruz Cucks Clan way.

88 posted on 04/11/2016 1:41:44 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: All

Looking forward to the Judge’s decision on this.


89 posted on 04/11/2016 1:42:55 PM PDT by Cats1 (Tump supporter till the bitter end... Nov 2016)
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To: CA Conservative
He is going to get knocked to the curb for fraud.

Keep on dreaming...

You might be correct.

But what does it say about our country that someone who violates the Constitution regarding his eligibility (someone who is himself a Constitutional lawyer)...can run for and win the Presidency.

It is not just a fraud. It is a travesty of all things that are holy.

90 posted on 04/11/2016 1:43:09 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (When a man loves cats, I am his friend and comrade, without further introduction. - Mark Twain)
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To: little jeremiah

The Canadian Citizenship Act of 1946 has this provision:

Part III Section 17. (1) Where a natural-born Canadian citizen, at his birth or during his minority, or any Canadian citizen on marriage, became or becomes under the law of any other country a national or citizen of that country, if, after attaining the full age of twenty-one years, or after the marriage, he makes, while not under disability, and still a national or citizen, a declaration renouncing his Canadian citizenship, he shall thereupon cease to be a Canadian citizen.

Why would they have such a section if they didn’t recognize the fact that children born in Canada could be dual citizens?


91 posted on 04/11/2016 1:43:09 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: nclaurel
-- If Canada did not acknowledge dual citizenship, why did Cruz have to revoke his Canadian citizenship in 2014? Would that not have been unnecessary? --

"Not acknowledging dual citizenship" is a complex notion of its own right, but essentially boils down to denying a person access to the foreign consulate.

The only reason Cruz renounced his Canadian citizenship was optics. Congress wants to convey the (false) impression that it is an America First operation, and that none of them have any divided loyalty.

We have an admitted dual citizen at birth in the WH now, so Congress has no objection to dual citizenship, and does not view dual citizenship as a risk of divided loyalty. At bottom, the loyalty that matters to Congress, is loyalty to "the club," which is an international thing.

92 posted on 04/11/2016 1:43:52 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: little jeremiah

There is NO Chance that his father was a Canadian citizen.
You people lie!


93 posted on 04/11/2016 1:44:39 PM PDT by BillM (.)
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To: 4Zoltan

I read at some point and I do not know the specifics, that for some time (not too long) in Canadian law, they did not permit dual citizenship. If I am wrong, I would like to know. Not the case now, from what I’ve read, but supposedly during the time frame Cruz was born.


94 posted on 04/11/2016 1:46:06 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: BillM

It’s common knowledge Cruz’ father was a Cuban citizen, became a Canadian citizen, and became a US citizen in 2005. Look it up. Sheesh.


95 posted on 04/11/2016 1:46:47 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: grey_whiskers
NO original source documents nor attribution.

Slime. It's the Cruz Cucks Clan way.

Here you go a$$hole - sorry you're too stupid or too lazy to look it up yourself:

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2755257/PA-TedCruzruling.pdf

96 posted on 04/11/2016 1:47:06 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: MIA_eccl1212

The man is running to be President of the United States... he needs to release all his records.


97 posted on 04/11/2016 1:47:12 PM PDT by MaxistheBest
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To: eastforker
He has been travelling on a US passport for most of his life! He has sworn many oaths of office in America. He is a member of the US Senate! Give it a rest!
98 posted on 04/11/2016 1:47:47 PM PDT by BillM (.)
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To: grey_whiskers
Slime. It's the Cruz Cucks Clan way.

You have a mighty way with words. That could be a tagline...

99 posted on 04/11/2016 1:48:12 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: RedWulf
I think he'll show his CRBA or equivalent later, if he advance to the nomination or the heat gets to high. He'll call it an American Birth Certificate, and most of the public will accept that as resolving the issue in his favor.

There is nothing to hide, the facts of the case produce an unfavorable result to Cruz, if precedent is applied. But nobody in a deciding role will apply the precedents, so everything is done for optics / kabuki. Our leaders cultivate a gullible public for a reason.

100 posted on 04/11/2016 1:48:25 PM PDT by Cboldt
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