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Pat Buchanan Joins Trump – Cruz Convention Unity Movement (Brilliant - Retain Rule 40 Movement!)
Conservative HQ ^ | 5 Apr 16 | George Raisley

Posted on 04/05/2016 7:36:02 AM PDT by xzins

While we disagree with Mr. Buchanan on which candidate is the best standard bearer for the conservative movement there is one thing we do agree on – passionately.

No matter who gets the Republican nomination, the establishment must lose.

In a recent column “Lock Out The Establishment In Cleveland!” Pat Buchanan echoed the conclusions of our four-part series on what conservatives should do if Trump wins the nomination:

As Buchanan explained, to accomplish that goal, “All Trump and Cruz need do is instruct their delegates to vote to retain Rule 40 from the 2012 convention. Rule 40 declares that no candidate can be placed in nomination who has failed to win a majority of the delegates in eight states.”

Trump has already hit that mark. Cruz almost surely will. But no establishment favorite has a chance of reaching it.

With Cruz and Trump delegates voting to retain Rule 40, they can guarantee no Beltway favorite walks out of Cleveland as the nominee — and that Ted Cruz or Donald Trump does.

As Pat Buchanan said, “No matter who wins in Cleveland, the establishment must lose.” We urge Trump and Cruz delegates across the country to do what their compatriots in Tennessee and a few other states have started to do; get together and form an informal alliance that commits them to voting for Cruz or Trump – and only Cruz or Trump.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York; US: Ohio; US: Texas; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2016election; buchanan; cleveland; cruz; delegates; election2016; johnkasich; newyork; ohio; patbuchanan; patrickbuchanan; patrickjbuchanan; paulryan; pitchforkpat; robertsrules; rule40; rule40b; scottwalker; tedcruz; texas; trump; wisconsin
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To: Ray76
He’ll get 1237

That is being way too optimistic. If so, will that still cinch the deal? Nope. The GOP-e could still steal the nomination away.

And if he doesn't get that number? All indications are that he will get the boot.

It's like putting all your chips on one number. And that's a sure-fire way to lose.

61 posted on 04/05/2016 8:48:17 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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To: Ray76

No problem.

I think keeping rule 40 is great. The only better rule would be rule 40b which says, “Only Trump can walk out with the nomination”.

But that won’t happen.

Rule 40 says: “Only those who have won at least 8 states can walk out with the nomination.”


62 posted on 04/05/2016 8:49:41 AM PDT by xzins (Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: Eagles6

I’ll settle for their agreeing to keep rule 40 in place.


63 posted on 04/05/2016 8:50:12 AM PDT by xzins (Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

It’s okay. I had to reread it a couple times. :-)


64 posted on 04/05/2016 8:50:55 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: xzins

I see no harm in rule 40.


65 posted on 04/05/2016 8:51:21 AM PDT by proust (Texans for Trump!)
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To: xzins

True


66 posted on 04/05/2016 8:56:19 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: Larry Lucido

See, I’m a real FReeper. I not only don’t read the excerpts - I don’t even read the headlines!

~derf~


67 posted on 04/05/2016 8:56:40 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Cruz is a loser. He’s a distant second.


68 posted on 04/05/2016 8:59:39 AM PDT by Ray76 (Judge Roy Moore for Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States)
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To: xzins
there are two things that might blow this up

First is Cruz has to get the 8 states... obviously his side not going to go for retaining that rule it unless he does get 8 states...if he does not ....then there as much invested in a free-for-all on the second ballot as the rest of the GOPe is

And the other thing is Cruz maneuvering to put in Trump delegates that are really stealth Cruz delegates.....

the Trump people are not going to be motivated to help Cruz if they feel that it all just a ploy to try and steal the vote from Trump on a second ballot

and again if Cruz has seeded all the other delegations with a bunch of crypto Cruz delegates... then Cruz has no major motivation to keep that rule...he may think why bother already got my secret people in place

problem is Cruz seeding the convention with a bunch of delegates of questionable loyalty....ie Trump delegates that are actually crypto 2nt vote Cruz delegates......

well no honor among Thieves

you might just have Trump delegates that pretended to be crypto 2nt vote Cruz delegates there are actually crypto vote GOPe choice Jeb delegates...

the GOPe been helping Cruz put in place these fake Trump delegates the Cruz think we're going to be loyal to him on the 2nt....

what's the chance that Cruz has been double-crossed and the GOPe is really been putting in their own stealth delegates with Cruz’ unwitting help

I.E. Cruz thinks he's snaking Trump delegates from around the country (with the GOPe help) when in fact that the GOPe snaking both Trump and Cruz by playing Cruz

so there might be a lot of crypto delegates that are going to not vote to keep that rule in place...after all it's to every delegates advantage in there if there are already disloyal to leave their hands-free to vote for the highest bidder

bottom line there's all sorts of Shenanigans and delegates of questionable loyalty that are going to be in that convention.... and that to me at the end of the day means GOPe advantage

69 posted on 04/05/2016 9:07:54 AM PDT by tophat9000 (King G(OP)eorge III has no idea why the Americans are in rebellion... teach him why)
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To: Responsibility2nd; Ray76

Cooperate? Compromise? Hold your nose?

That’s exactly the kind of bull sh*t that put America where it is now. I agree with Ray. I believe they’re attempting to insert Cruz, a Bush/establishment insider into the White House one way or another.

To be clear, I do not trust Cruz, nor do I like him as an individual.


70 posted on 04/05/2016 9:12:39 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Great. Thanks for your thoughts. I hope Trump takes this approach and goes all in for this “my way or the highway” tactic.

And when he gets counter punched by Ted AND the GOP-e, he can slink back to home like Jeb, Marco, and all the other losers.


71 posted on 04/05/2016 9:20:49 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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To: xzins

Maybe Trump should make a deal with Kasich and change rule 40 to increase the states to 15 and lock Cruz out.


72 posted on 04/05/2016 9:21:15 AM PDT by freespirit2012
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To: tophat9000

Trump WILL walk into that convention with the delegates needed!!! Heads are going to be exploding but he WILL have more than enough!!!


73 posted on 04/05/2016 9:23:04 AM PDT by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: freespirit2012

NO DEAL with Kasich I CAN’T STAND him!!!!


74 posted on 04/05/2016 9:24:09 AM PDT by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’ll be honest with you. Considering Americans have been robbed, looted and conned for decades by the yellow bile in D.C., I almost hope the corrupt you’re supporting, pull it off.


75 posted on 04/05/2016 9:28:05 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 4rcane
There’s several way of playing this. Trump could hold this out as a bargaining tool. The best Cruz could hope for is VP slot, not President. If Cruz doesn’t agree, Trump will allow GOPe to pick their candidate

Interesting, then if Trump didn't go along, would that prove that he is really an insider as some say it would Cruz, if he didn't go along? No of course not, because.......Cruz!

76 posted on 04/05/2016 9:33:31 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: xzins

I only see one problem to this.

You cannot make people vote how you want them to vote.


77 posted on 04/05/2016 9:35:34 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: Pelham; xzins
This should reveal whether or not Cruz is still an outsider or whether he has been co-opted by the GOPe


78 posted on 04/05/2016 9:35:48 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Rubio: All the slipperiness of Bill Clinton, with none of the smarts.)
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To: IamConservative

Trump, the national front-runner, arrived to a half-empty auditorium at the Milwaukee Theatre in a defensive crouch, beaten down by days of bad headlines and growing signs that Wisconsin — and perhaps even his best shot at winning the GOP nomination outright — was slipping from his grasp.


79 posted on 04/05/2016 9:36:25 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: Mastador1

Or Trump could just give the vp spot to Kasich and amend rule 40-b to increase it to 15 states and lock Cruz out..


80 posted on 04/05/2016 9:36:56 AM PDT by freespirit2012
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