GOP panelists eager to scrap rule that helps Trump

Politico ^ | 03/30/16 | By Kyle Cheney

[detective]

All four early appointees to the rules committee for this year’s Republican National Convention told POLITICO they’re prepared to weaken or scrap a rule that could limit the convention’s alternatives to Donald Trump.

The four took issue with a rule, originally imposed by Mitt Romney forces in 2012 to keep rival Ron Paul off the convention stage, requiring a candidate to win a majority of delegates in eight states to be eligible for the party’s nomination — a threshold only Trump has exceeded so far. If preserved, the rule could block John Kasich or Ted Cruz from competing with Trump at the convention, set for July in Cleveland.

[Amendment10]

Thank you for referencing that article detective. Please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

From a related thread …

Regarding the so-called political party conventions for nominating a president, here is the actual constitutional process for “nominating” and voting for a president.

”Article II, Section 1, Clause 2: Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

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12th Amendment: The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; ..."

The main problem that patriots seem to be having with the political parties is this. Since patriots today have grown up with political parties, they wrongly think that the parties are in integral part of the constitutional republic.

But not only are political parties not defined by the Constitution, they exist to control 10th Amendment-protected state powers and associated state revenues that the corrupt Washington cartel has been stealing from the states since the end of the Civil War, and arguably since the administration of President George Washington imo.

In fact, note that one of the very few powers that the states have actually delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, to decide domestic policy is to regulate, tax and spend for the US Mail Service (1.8.7).

So the key question concerning the political parties is how many political parties does it take to manage the US Mail Service?

I say none.

Remember in November !

If patriots elect Trump, Cruz, or whatever conservative they elect, they will also need to elect a new, state sovereignty-respecting Congress that will work within its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers to not only support the president, but also surrender back to the states state powers and state revenues that the corrupt feds have been stealing from the states.

In fact, note that such a Congress will also probably be willing to fire state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices.

[Bubba Gump Shrimp]

The schools are a good point, but what else is important to remember is that the R’s always have a 40% disadvantage going into any election because that’s about what I reckon to be the amount of folks that are sucking on the government teet.

Either in the form of welfare or government jobs or union members who rely on party affiliation to pay their bills.

I happen to be in the latter group. It is hard to get union members where I live to vote R, they risk quite a bit to be on a voter roll that says they pulled for a Republican. It is not conducive to a long career.

[patriot08]

The establishment is getting desperate.

They will resort to anything to silence the voice of We The People and avoid their gravy trains being derailed- and they know that with the Cuban-Canadian it will be business as usual

[Bobby_Taxpayer]

If Trump ran as a 3rd party, I think he would split more Dem votes than he would Republican votes. But then no one would get the 270 Electoral votes needed to become President. Then what?

[thefactor]

Y'all better get used to saying "Madam President" real quick.

And you'll have no one but yourselves to blame.

[irishjuggler]

NY and CA have 295 electoral votes, don’t they? how can trump not get to 1237, or whatever the number is?

It's very possible that Trump won't make 1,237. CA is winner-take-all in 53 different congressional districts. Very hard to imagine Trump or any candidate running the table in all 53 districts of a very large, politically diverse state.

[TheStickman]

Then it goes to the House of Representatives.

[firebrand]

Easy. Just say you’re in favor of punishing women who get abortions. Nomination: lost.

[Iron Munro]

The GOP Republican elites don’t dress as scurvy as democrats but their hearts are just as dark and venal.

[detective]

“there is no party loyalty”

The GOPe are loyal only to themselves and their agendas. Party loyalty is something they sell to the masses to keep them in line.

The GOP made a big deal about how Trump should support the party nominee. They had no intention of supporting the nominee unless it was Jeb!.

[The Toll]

You think Republicans are pro-murder?

[SgtHooper]

The problem with the status quo, is that the damned GOPe remains in power and as worthless as they have been for the last few decades. I want Trump to gut the GOPe from existence, if possible.

[jjotto]

As per the Constitution, the House of Representatives would choose the president, with each state having one vote.

These days, that would likely be a slam dunk for the GOP candidate.

[gunsequalfreedom]

If the GOPe makes any move to cheat at the convention, I pledge not to vote for any GOPe endorsed candidates ever again.

[manc]

A vote for Cruz or Kasich now is a vote for the establishment and not long ago cruz voters as I was one use dot say we were proud ot not be part of the establishment.
My how times change when their campaign is failing and they are losing.

“Let me encourage other members of the establishment: Keep supporting Donald Trump because every time you do it, what it is doing is telling conservatives all over the country is where you stand and who stands with you”.
- Ted Cruz, New Hampshire stump speech

[Resolute Conservative]

I have been angry for along time. Started with Bush 41 and escalated quickly with Clinton’s elections.

[Beautiful_Gracious_Skies]

Either way, the jokes on us.

[SunkenCiv]

...requiring a candidate to win a majority of delegates in eight states to be eligible for the party's nomination -- a threshold only Trump has exceeded so far.

The rule was established to help the Mittwit.

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Majority Threshold 'Unfair' in G.O.P. Nomination Process, Donald Trump Complains #24
Posted March 20, 2016 2:12:47 PM PDT by nhwingut

Trump has far more delegates than both Romney and McCain at the same time in history. The GOPe always, along with media allies, convinces all to drop out for "the good of the party" and coalesce around the leader. Now they're doing the exact opposite.

Further, Trump is on pace to have more votes than McCain and Romney COMBINED.

Keywords: robertsrules

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[faithhopecharity]

there was a time for any rule changing
earlier, before millions of people voted.... the nomination primaries are well underway

it is NOT a proper time to change the rules in the middle of the game!..

(the above is from a person who is NOT on the Trump bandwagon. its just wrong to change the rules in the middle of the game... rigging the game while its in play is NOT acceptable politics imho)

[detective]

“If Trump wants to run 3rd party, I’m not even going to mind.

I’ll vote for him. I’m not going to put up with this.”

Say there is a brokered convention and the GOP gives the nomination to Jeb! or Romney.

Say there is a three way race Trump, GOPe candidate, Hillary Clinton.

Trump would probably win in a landslide.