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Why Trump cannot succeed boils down to one reason. Trump does not flatter the power elite comprised of republican/democrat power brokers, the msm and the conservative and liberal punditry. Other than that Trump has the voters on his side and the voters know the power elite have failed them consistently and intentionally. Voters are willing to put their money on Trump because they have absolutely nothing to lose and may be very pleasantly surprised.
1 posted on 03/28/2016 5:57:21 AM PDT by GilGil
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To: GilGil

More concerned by Bernie


2 posted on 03/28/2016 5:58:12 AM PDT by libsdrinkkoolaid
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I’m a Cruz supporter.

If either Trump or Cruz, whoever gets the nomination, cannot beat Hillary Clinton, then things are likely too far gone to even slow down or reverse.

If the GOP-E tries to play games and successfully parachutes in an untested candidate, or one who has already dropped out, all bets are off.

If we have almost all Cruz and Trump delegates at the convention, that will be very difficult to do.


3 posted on 03/28/2016 6:01:14 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("There is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don't care who gets the credit."-R.Reagan)
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40% of Republicans say that they will never vote for Trump. It will be hard for Trump to win with only crossover Democrats.


4 posted on 03/28/2016 6:01:38 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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40% of Republicans say that they will never vote for Trump. It will be hard for Trump to win with only crossover Democrats.


5 posted on 03/28/2016 6:01:44 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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Same said about nomination.


8 posted on 03/28/2016 6:03:29 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: GilGil

the general election polls in march 2012 were pretty accurate. they certainly weren’t 10 points upside down.


12 posted on 03/28/2016 6:14:59 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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Voters are willing to put their money on Trump because they have absolutely nothing to lose and may be very pleasantly surprised.

Absolutely. However, on the Democrat side there is Bernie, the other "outsider" who is making ground on Hillary. Bernie will get a majority of younger voters, but will he get the older Democrat voters in the general election, that is the question.

Right now I'm not sure how Cruz supporters will react if Donald wins the nomination. That is also another factor.

So Donald vs. Hillary is one thing, but we also need to worry about Donald vs. Bernie, and right now that is a crap shoot at best to figure out who would win that matchup.

16 posted on 03/28/2016 6:20:00 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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17 posted on 03/28/2016 6:20:39 AM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (It's them or us.)
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Hillary smashing Trump is yet another false narrative being advanced by the drive-by media. I’m surprised so many have fallen for it.

Hillary is a horrible candidate, always was, have never won anything other than a carpet-bagged safe seat, and will turn off any undecided voter who is in range of her hectoring and pedantic ranting.


18 posted on 03/28/2016 6:21:01 AM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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When 95+% of the “experts” and elite and politicians are attacking Trump every change they get, he’s not going to get support from casual news readers/viewers. Fortunately he has the stamina to get on TV a lot and argue his side.

If republicans/GOPe/conservatives would stop attacking Trump and start arguing for their preferred candidate things may change. It would be REALLY nice to see if it changes before the nomination. It would also be nice if Cruz (or any other potential nominee) gets a few months of articles and arguments FOR them.

At this point, if it’s Trump, a lot of people have heard bad things from BOTH sides that he starts in a hole. If it’s not Trump the nominee will have missed a lot of positive coverage since the inches and minutes are filled trashing Trump.


23 posted on 03/28/2016 6:25:28 AM PDT by LostPassword
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I still can’t believe I voted for McCain. But, I did.


24 posted on 03/28/2016 6:27:41 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ('''Political correcYes but every attactness is communist propaganda writ small''~ Theodore Dalrymple)
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Why Trump cannot succeed boils down to one reason. Trump does not flatter the power elite comprised of republican/democrat power brokers, the msm and the conservative and liberal punditry.

Hogwash. Hlary Clinton is a terrible candidate, and an outsider - even one who "does not flatter the power elites" - should be able to beat her.

If Trump does not beat her, it will be because he habitually engages in juvenile, offensive conduct that has absolutely nothing to do with being an outsider, or with any substantive position. But it is conduct that a great many people find offensive, and beneath the dignity of someone who aspires to the office held by Washington, Lincoln, and Reagan.

There's nothing wrong with making enemies in politics. Frankly, you're doing something wrong if you',re not making enemies. But there is something very wrong in making unnecessary enemies through purely gratuitous offensive comments and behaviors.

If Trump.loses ,that will be why. Not because he's stepping on the toes of the boogeyman elites.

28 posted on 03/28/2016 6:33:38 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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I guess one thing is for certain: this season is like no other before. Thus there is real uncertainty. Interestingly, I find all of the points on this thread to be plausible, even ones that flatly contradict each other.

This could turn out any number of ways. But as Farah points out, we are trying to remember the past and project it into the future and nothing like this has ever happened.

Likely, some one here will be mostly right, and many others will be mostly wrong. But I don’t know which predictions will end up being true.

This is an historic election cycle...meaning momentous, but simultaneously completely cut off from history. And therefore uncertain.


32 posted on 03/28/2016 6:39:30 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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2004: Kerry, Edwards Both Top Bush in Poll
34 posted on 03/28/2016 6:49:48 AM PDT by YourAdHere (Hillary will win. I don't like it. I've just accepted it.)
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If the mentality is that either Hillary, a documented liar, or Bernie, a known communist, would be better for the United States than any other person, then this country is already lost.


35 posted on 03/28/2016 6:56:24 AM PDT by eeriegeno (<p>)
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The Hillary camp is scared to death of Trump. He is a master of sizing people up and pissing them off. I don’t think Hillary has what it takes to go up against what the left calls ...A MEAN MAN...in other words a tough businessman. He will expose her for what she is and they know it.


41 posted on 03/28/2016 7:10:00 AM PDT by jetson
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“Other than that Trump has the voters on his side...”

Really? The guy with the highest negatives ever recorded has the voters on his side? The guy who is making ME wonder if I can vote for “the Republican” against Hillary has the voters on his side?


44 posted on 03/28/2016 7:19:59 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of infants, ruled by their emotion)
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Yes. Really. Last poll has only 23% of women willing to vote for him. And don’t get me started on minorities ESPECIALLY Latinos who will turn out in droves. In 2010 when the mid-terms went Red my state of CA went blue because of high Latino turnout against the GOP.

Do the math.

He is loathed and it’s only going to get worse. Oh his supporters won’t change their mind, but that isn’t even CLOSE to enough.

This is an epic disaster for us in the making.


50 posted on 03/28/2016 7:45:36 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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Trump will get crushed in the general. His disapproval numbers with woman are sky high. I know the Trump fanboys cheer him on when he fights with Megyn Kelly, Carly Fiorina, Ted Cruzes wife…but everyone else thinks it’s pretty damn weird. Not enough angry white guys to win this thing.


51 posted on 03/28/2016 7:48:03 AM PDT by Blackirish ("Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners." - George Carlin)
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