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UTAH CAUCUS: First hand insider report - Incompetence, Manipulation, and Ballot Stuffing!!!
Godlikeproductions ^ | 3/23/16 | Pirate monkey

Posted on 03/22/2016 10:43:27 PM PDT by M. Thatcher

Just got back from my caucus... My head is still spinning.

Check in was slow but reasonably controlled. Super-long lines. I've never seen turnout like this.

Got my credentials, but no presidential ballot. They said those would be delivered to our caucus room.

Got to my caucus room. I counted about 120 people there (no idea how many were actually registered and credentialed).

We elected Precinct Officers, State Delegates, and County Delegates - the typical incompetence and ignorance of the rules you'd expect to see from volunteers, but all went somewhat smooth.

...Then came the Presidential Ballot.

Someone shows up with a stack of probably 250 ballots. The precinct chair splits them up, and starts handing stacks of them out and tells people "take one and pass it down".

No checking credentials, IDs, NOTHING.

I'm sitting at the end of a row and people start handing me stacks of extras. I literally had over 50 ballots in my hand.

[link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

We were told to mark our vote and place our ballot in a tin can. They then asked for a volunteer to hold the can. At this point, most people filed out the door.

I cast ONE vote, then stuck around to see what would happen with the votes.

About 15 minutes later, with only about 10 or so people milling around, someone walks in the room with an envelopes STUFFED full of "absentee" ballots - some envelopes having 2-5+ ballots.

I raised a question and said, "isn't there an absentee process already in place? Didn't people have to register for that last week?" and was told "Oh no, this is completely normal".

As I've mentioned in other threads, I was in Party leadership for 6 years and no, this is absolutely not normal.

I then asked if I could observe the vote count, and I was told my observations where not needed and to leave the area while the ballots were being counted.

I left the room (things were already a complete Charlie Foxtrot at this point) and wandered over to my friends precinct caucus to see if it was just as much a cluster.

His caucus was just getting to the presidential ballot, and as I walked in the door I was handed ANOTHER BALLOT.

Again, no credential check, no ID check, NOTHING.

No, I didn't vote again...

I went back to my precinct and they had the results: 74% Cruz 14% Trump 11% Kasich

Now just imagine this kind of outright incompetence/manipulation happening in 2000 precincts across the state.

As I left the building, I started overhearing results coming back from other precincts... Overwhelmingly numbers for Cruz... Like 70-90% or more. (In one precinct Cruz got around 100, Trump had 2, Kasich 0)

Bottom line... They basically are going to post whatever the hell numbers they want.

There were no apparent controls, no credential checks, no ID checks, and ballots being handed around like napkins.

UTAH RESULTS ARE A COMPLETE SHAM

And it just cost Trump 40 delegates.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: conspiracytheory; conspiracywebsite; kolob; madeup; paultards; tinfoilhat; trumplies; ut2016; utahelectionfraud
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To: proudpapa
You trumpsters should show some class and be glad that Rubio got out. Otherwise Donald comes in 4th place.

You Cruz Worshipers don't have the slightest understanding of 'class' considering the Dominionist King you've hitched your wagong to, you better get to your local Mormon Temple and make a contribution to former Bishop Romney, that converted Mormon lunatic Glenn Beck, and pray the FEC doesn't investigate those dubious Soros-managed Utah results.
161 posted on 03/23/2016 4:26:59 AM PDT by mkjessup (A vote for CRUZ is a vote for ROMNEY, BUSH, GRAHAM, McCAIN & GOPe. Are you CruzBots effin' KWAZY?!?)
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To: M. Thatcher

Where did you vote? Some third world country?


162 posted on 03/23/2016 4:39:58 AM PDT by McGruff (Just another "Low Information Voter" for Trump)
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To: M. Thatcher

UTAH RESULTS ARE A COMPLETE SHAM

According to a report produced by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life the self-identified religious affiliations of Utahns over the age of 18 as of 2008 are:[10]

Margin of error +/- 6%

 

In 2010 Utah was 62.1% Mormon (members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints).

Salt Lake County, was 51.4% LDS.

The county with the lowest percentage of LDS was Grand County at 26.5%.

The county with the highest percentage of LDS was Morgan County at 86.1% [17]

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Utah

163 posted on 03/23/2016 4:40:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: adaven

Priesthood ordered and declared ... I’m LDS and I haven’t received any of your so called “orders”.

Do to this simple evidence, I would say that your judgement is worthless, dishonest and bigoted!


164 posted on 03/23/2016 4:41:19 AM PDT by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country ....)
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To: M. Thatcher

Interesting ‘source’...


165 posted on 03/23/2016 4:42:46 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: adaven

“It is what the Priesthood has ordered and declared”

Or it is consistent with previous UT voting patterns, recent polls, and the candidates own expectations. Sure that’s not as fun as screaming “Priesthood Commands!” and “Fraud”. But it’s a lot more likely.


166 posted on 03/23/2016 4:44:05 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (Islamic Immigration is Treason.)
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To: Craftmore

“Ted Cruz is a porn distributor that provides porn to children.”

Probably the silliest FR comment I’ve read this year.


167 posted on 03/23/2016 4:49:29 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (Islamic Immigration is Treason.)
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To: Red Steel

I guess 70% is still believable. Don’t want to come in too high!


168 posted on 03/23/2016 4:51:41 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: Dagnabitt

Ted Cruz is a porn distributor that provides porn to children.”

Probably the silliest FR comment I’ve read this year.


And that is saying something.


169 posted on 03/23/2016 5:22:45 AM PDT by jstaff
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To: WilliamIII

Mountain Meadows—I was thinking the same thing.

The Trump ballots met the same fate as the non-Mormon wagon trains.


170 posted on 03/23/2016 5:28:00 AM PDT by cgbg (Epistemology is not a spectator sport.)
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To: M. Thatcher

I thought they were religious people? But then again according to that nut Beck, Cruz is God’s anointed so Romans 3:7 applies.


171 posted on 03/23/2016 5:39:01 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist
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To: M. Thatcher; All

One unsubstantiated article from some off the wall blog and every Trump person on FR agrees “there was massive voter fraud” “Ted Cruz just stole another one” .

Well, I was there, too, and that is not the way it was. True there were some people with multiple ballots, trying to go from one collection point to the next and drop a vote. One of the wardens confiscated about 50 of them and they were all filled out for Trump. One of the people who had them tried to run away before the warden got to him and knocked down an older woman and her daughter, who was helping her to walk. When his chasers stopped to help the women he started laughing and beat it out the door.

There were also reports of intimidation by a group of 2 or 3 Trump people. They were supposedly going from site to site and asking people who they were voting for. If the answer was anyone besides Trump they were threatened with assault until they left the site. There was one person arrested in relation to this activity, cops gave his name as Roger Stone.

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Actually none of this is true. I was not there. I just made it all up, but it did sound pretty cool, huh? Everyone check your pulse now. See how easy it is to get stuff stirred up?


172 posted on 03/23/2016 5:42:41 AM PDT by jstaff
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To: jstaff

That story is going to posted on FR several times over the next week, and it will be sourced to various blogs.


173 posted on 03/23/2016 5:47:43 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Iowa David
I am sure there was none in Nevada.


Nevada is the only state where prostitution is legal (under the form of licensed brothels).

 

Church attendance in Nevada is among the lowest of all US states. In a 2009 Gallup poll only 30% of Nevadans said they attended church weekly or almost weekly, compared to 42% of all Americans (only four states were found to have a lower attendance rate than Nevada).[46]

Major religious affiliations of the people of Nevada are:[47] Roman Catholic 25%, Protestant 35%, no religion 28%, Latter-day Saint 4%, Jewish 2%, Hindu less than 1%, Buddhist 0.5% and Islam less than 0.1%.. Parts of Nevada (in the eastern parts of the state) are situated in the Mormon Corridor.

The largest denominations by number of adherents in 2010 were the Roman Catholic Church with 451,070; The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints with 175,149; and the Southern Baptist Convention with 45,535; Buddhist congregations 14,727; Bahá'í 1,723; and Muslim 1,700.[48] The Jewish community is represented by The Rohr Jewish Learning Institute and Chabad.[49][50]

 


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada

174 posted on 03/23/2016 6:00:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: tumblindice

Eggzactly!


175 posted on 03/23/2016 6:01:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Lazamataz

Why do the majority of Mormons follow what that idiot Mitt Romney has to say? They are one disappointing group of people.


176 posted on 03/23/2016 6:05:55 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: mkjessup

“Sounds like another tainted Cruz ‘victory’ ala Iowa.”

A slanderous thing to say. Give it up. The process in Iowa had no “taint”.
The election process on the R side was run well and with integrity.
The only “taint” was Trump (and Carson) bitching about some Cruz people repeating a CNN story that broke AFTER PEOPLE WERE INSIDE TO VOTE quoting Carson saying he was headed home.


177 posted on 03/23/2016 6:05:58 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
"Twirling for Ted"

Looks good on you.

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178 posted on 03/23/2016 6:09:03 AM PDT by mkjessup (Ted Cruz - Endorsed by JEB BUSH, MITT ROMNEY, LINDSEY GRAHAM and GLENN BECK!!)
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To: UCANSEE2

WAY back before PCs were commonplace; I had an early model Ohio Scientific computer that ran BASIC.

We used to play a lot of board games in those days that involve throwing dice. Sometimes these would end up on the floor; slowing the game.

So I wrote a small program that simulated rolling dice.
Two squares on the screen had constantly rolling numbers from 1-6 in them that would slow and stop whenever any key was pressed.

Proud of my work, I tried to use it the next time the family got together.

“Cute!”, says my sister-in-law, “But anyone smart enough to write a program to do this is smart enough to make it cheat.”

She was right; of course. Certain ‘any keys’ would pre-select which number would eventually show up.

Shame on me.


179 posted on 03/23/2016 6:10:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: dragnet2

HEY!


Oh; wait...

You typed ODD, not OLD.

180 posted on 03/23/2016 6:12:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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