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Judge: 17-year-olds can vote in Ohio presidential primary
Times Free Press ^ | 3/11/16

Posted on 03/11/2016 2:34:59 PM PST by EBH

Edited on 03/11/2016 3:25:01 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

COLUMBUS, Ohio

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: 17yearolds; 2016election; berniesanders; columbus; election2016; ohio; ohioprimary; primary; vermont; vote; votingage
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To: Johnny B.; Raycpa

Our youth vote seems to be lost due to indoctrination by our schools and universities.

Here we open it up to kids under 18.

That’s just one more block for the Leftists.

Folks, if we want a nation at all, we need to start pushing back on stuff like this.


121 posted on 03/11/2016 5:31:57 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: EBH
"Judge: 17-year-olds can vote in Ohio presidential primary"

Why not make a 17-year-old to be an Ohio judge? What's one more idiot in the judicial system?

122 posted on 03/11/2016 5:38:01 PM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: Carl Vehse
Why not make a 17-year-old to be an Ohio judge? What's one more idiot in the judicial system?

It's a bad idea because the Air Jordan shoes sticking out from under the robes would be a distraction.

123 posted on 03/11/2016 5:43:09 PM PST by Senator_Blutarski
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To: DoughtyOne

I think the state law should be 18 for everyone. But this is a state law. The Feds leave it up to the states to conduct their own elections so long as they do not discriminate based on age, gender, or race. There are also amendments prohibiting poll taxes, restriction to property owners, and literacy tests. I looked up 14, 15, 17, 19, 23, 24, and 26. Certainly a lot of amendments. But I think we can agree that anything they don’t cover falls to the states.

Hypothetically, if a state were to pass a law allowing 10 year olds to vote, it would be valid and constitutional. But our system is set up so that if such a law caused enough of an uproar nationwide, a constitutional amendment could be proposed to bar it. The furor raised in other states would have them lining up to pass such an amendment.

We can agree that the legislature may be wrong to enact a law allowing 17 year olds to vote. But the law is perfectly valid and constitutional. One elected official could not and should not have the power to change a state law regardless of who benefits politically. The judge ruled correctly on this case.


124 posted on 03/11/2016 5:50:22 PM PST by mmichaels1970 (Hillary lied over four coffins.)
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To: Carl Vehse

The judge did nothing wrong. He did what we would all expect him to do. He strictly interpreted the law. Your beef should be with the Ohio legislature.


125 posted on 03/11/2016 5:55:56 PM PST by mmichaels1970 (Hillary lied over four coffins.)
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To: mmichaels1970; All

I agree, and I should have been more willing to admit that to some earlier posters too.


126 posted on 03/11/2016 6:10:06 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: PROCON

Voting age of 25, heck no. How unconstitutional!

(Raise it to 40.)


127 posted on 03/11/2016 6:26:27 PM PST by erkelly
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To: CottonBall

The men were doing a pretty good job of ruining the world before we women were allowed to vote. The worst tragedy that ever befell this country was the civil war; entirely under the control of men!


128 posted on 03/11/2016 6:31:34 PM PST by erkelly
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To: EBH

Why not 16 or 12? Why discriminate between minors, idiots.


129 posted on 03/11/2016 6:31:55 PM PST by Crucial (At the heart all leftidsts is the fear that the truth is bigger than themselves.)
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To: erkelly

Women vote more for liberals than not. The CW may have started the expansion of federal overreach but women hasten it with every election.


130 posted on 03/11/2016 6:39:11 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: DoughtyOne

Constitution. 18 is to impressionable.


131 posted on 03/11/2016 6:50:13 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: mmichaels1970

This same procedure applied to me in 1967 in Kentucky. Kentucky was one of two states that allowed voting at 18 at that time. If one was 18 by the general election, one could vote at 17 in the primary. It’s nothing new, although I have to agree with several posters that the level of maturity and awarness seems to be impeded quite a bit in the young folks of the last 25 years.


132 posted on 03/11/2016 6:56:24 PM PST by damper99
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To: Raycpa

I agree.

Back in my day kids were more able to discern good candidates.

A lot of the guys around me were Conservative.

Today, I doubt it.


133 posted on 03/11/2016 7:03:28 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: damper99
although I have to agree with several posters that the level of maturity and awarness seems to be impeded quite a bit in the young folks of the last 25 years.

Me too. My knuckleheads are 20, 19, 17, and 14. My two oldest are at least smart enough to realize that they are too ignorant to vote. My 17 year old has watched every debate on DVR and can talk about the difference between democracy and a representative republic. She can also willingly and readily discuss why socialism is evil. But she's the exception rather than the norm.
134 posted on 03/11/2016 7:04:41 PM PST by mmichaels1970 (Hillary lied over four coffins.)
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To: austinaero

I do. If you should be 18 to vote, then you should be 18 to vote....however.... technically I guess parties could let 5 year olds choose the nominee and that’s not against the law....it’s a party thing.....

I’m sure they could choose better candidates at least....


135 posted on 03/11/2016 7:30:36 PM PST by DrewsMum (If they wanted a conservative, they'd vote for one.)
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To: grania

It is illogical. Legislatures make laws not judges. He has zero authority to do this.. The las saw 18.. Period.


136 posted on 03/11/2016 7:52:39 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: mmichaels1970
mmichaels1970 @125: "The judge did nothing wrong."

You are correct. He did strictly interpret the law as we would expect him to do.

According to Ohio Revised Code Sections 3503.011, 3501.01(A) and (E)(1) and (2), and 3513.12, a 17-year-old is entitled to vote in an Ohio primary election (as defined) to elected delegates to a national political party convention, which will select a nominee to run in the general election (as defined).

Ohio Revised Code Section 3503.011 Qualifications of electors for primary elections states: "At a primary election every qualified elector who is or will be on the day of the next general election eighteen or more years of age, and who is a member of or is affiliated with the political party whose primary election ballot he desires to vote, shall be entitled to vote such ballot at the primary election."

Ohio Revised Code 3501.01 Election procedure - election officials definitions states:
(A) "General election" means the election held on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in each November.
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(E)
(1) "Primary" or "primary election" means an election held for the purpose of nominating persons as candidates of political parties for election to offices, and for the purpose of electing persons as members of the controlling committees of political parties and as delegates and alternates to the conventions of political parties. Primary elections shall be held on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in May of each year except in years in which a presidential primary election is held.
(2) "Presidential primary election" means a primary election as defined by division (E)(1) of this section at which an election is held for the purpose of choosing delegates and alternates to the national conventions of the major political parties pursuant to section 3513.12 of the Revised Code. Unless otherwise specified, presidential primary elections are included in references to primary elections. In years in which a presidential primary election is held, all primary elections shall be held on the second Tuesday after the first Monday in March except as otherwise authorized by a municipal or county charter.

Ohio Revised Code 3513.12 Delegates to national party convention states: "At a presidential primary election, which shall be held on the second Tuesday after the first Monday in March in the year 2016, and similarly in every fourth year thereafter, delegates and alternates to the national conventions of the different major political parties shall be chosen by direct vote of the electors as provided in this chapter."

137 posted on 03/11/2016 8:29:32 PM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: HamiltonJay

See post 137. It was the legislature that made the law allowing 17 year olds to vote in the primary. Not the judge. The judge strictly interpreted the law as written. It is the legislature’s job to change it, not the Secretary of State’s. There is no federally mandated minimum voting age. The Feds only say that 18 year olds can NOT be denied by the states from voting based on age. It makes no mention of those younger, meaning a state CAN prevent (or allow) younger kids from voting, but they aren’t mandated to do that.


138 posted on 03/11/2016 8:39:27 PM PST by mmichaels1970 (Hillary lied over four coffins.)
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To: DrewsMum
however.... technically I guess parties could let 5 year olds choose the nominee and that’s not against the law....it’s a party thing

It's a state thing. States can allow 5 year olds to vote for president if they want. There is nothing in the constitution preventing it.

Many say the 26th amendment claims to set the voting age nationally at 18. This is incorrect. It simply says that eligible 18 year olds can't be denied based on age. There is nothing in the constitution that says 17 year olds can't vote.

Other than anti-discrimination amendments in the constitution, all election laws are left to the states. It's a very good conservative and federalist thing.
139 posted on 03/11/2016 8:50:55 PM PST by mmichaels1970 (Hillary lied over four coffins.)
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To: austinaero
I have no issue with this.

Yeah? What the hell! Laws aren't really laws but suggestions. Why bother.

140 posted on 03/11/2016 9:12:28 PM PST by upsdriver (I support Sarah Palin.)
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