Posted on 03/10/2016 5:07:48 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
Republican lawmakers are warily eyeing the possibility of a brokered convention that could force party leaders to choose between Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and celebrity businessman Donald Trump for their presidential nominee.
It is, they say, a very difficult choice. From their perspective, its picking between the devil they know and the devil they dont know.
Many GOP senators have declined to state their preferences publicly while the race remains competitive. Privately, they are flummoxed at the possibility of likely having to choose between two candidates they view as highly problematic.
Lawmakers who spoke to The Hill on background say they are wavering over who would be the better nominee or more bluntly, the lesser of two evils.
Trump is generally viewed as having a better chance of beating Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton and less of a negative impact on Republican candidates down-ballot in the general election. But the idea of him in the Oval Office makes some GOP senators uncomfortable.
Trump would have a better chance against Hillary Clinton and wouldnt be as bad for Republicans in other races, but I think Cruz would make a better president, said one GOP senator who requested anonymity.
Trump wouldnt have as much of an impact down-ballot because it would be easier for us to disassociate from him, the lawmaker stated.
Lawmakers said they had a hard time distancing themselves from former Missouri Rep. Todd Akin (R) and former Indiana treasurer Richard Mourdock in 2012 after they made controversial comments on rape and abortion.
Some think it would be easier to create distance from Trump because hes running as a businessman new to politics who supported Republicans and Democrats in the past.
A Republican senator argued the recent primaries in Alabama and Arkansas, which Sens. Richard Shelby and John Boozman won with 65 percent and 76 percent, respectively, show that Trump may help GOP candidates by boosting turnout.
Set aside Trumps disadvantages. He would probably bring out a lot of people to vote. If you look at Shelbys and Boozmans primaries, Trump won their states and they won big, he said. So it looks like people who come out to vote for Trump are comfortable voting for the Republican Senate candidate.
The idea of Trump in the Oval Office, however, makes stomachs churn on Capitol Hill because he is so unpredictable. And while the billionaire may have helped Republicans in a deep red state, how will he affect vulnerable Republican senators in purple and blue states in November?
Cruz, meanwhile, is the least popular member of the Senate, though his colleagues say at least they have an idea of what to expect from him.
Its a Hobsons choice. Cruz is more predictable. Predictability is comforting in politics, said another Republican senator, who agreed that Trump has more upside potential against Clinton because of his appeal among blue-collar voters in the battleground states of the Upper Midwest.
The thing with Trump is hes unpredictable. You really dont know how he would act as president, the lawmaker added.
More than 50 conservative national security and foreign policy experts released a letter last week panning Trump as unfit to serve as commander in chief.
Trump pledged Tuesday night after winning victories in Michigan and Mississippi that he would adopt a more presidential tone in office.
I can be more presidential than anybody, he told supporters at a rally in Florida. If I want to, I can be more presidential than anybody.
Republican senators wont get to vote for the nominee in Cleveland, where the convention will be held in July, but they may have influence as senior party officials if Trump or Cruz fail to win on the first ballot.
I dont know how it works. Its uncharted territory, said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), the partys standard-bearer in 2008.
A well-funded coalition of anti-Trump Republicans has emerged, but giving the nomination to someone else if he wins the plurality of delegates could prompt a revolt by his supporters.
A legitimate question is, suppose they have a brokered convention and they dont pick Trump? What does he do? McCain added.
Trump has 458 delegates, while Cruz, whos in second place, has 359, according to The Associated Press. Trump would need to win 54 percent of the remaining delegates and Cruz just over 60 percent to reach the 1,237 needed to clinch the nod outright.
If neither candidate reaches the magic number, the nominee may be decided by two, three or more rounds of balloting at the convention in Cleveland. A larger proportion of the delegates will become unbound with each successive vote, giving them more and more discretion to pick the partys standard-bearer.
Trump will take a major step toward avoiding a brokered convention if he wins Florida and Ohio, two large winner-take-all states, which will allocate delegates after the March 15 primaries.
Republican senators say Trump has proven himself to be a formidable political force. However, they question whether hell stick to conservative policy tenets once in office.
Trump doesnt have much of a political compass. He has the ability to redefine himself over the course of a debate, said another GOP senator. My concern with Trump is theres a greater likelihood of the pendulum swinging to the left of center with him in office.
On the other hand, the lawmaker fretted that Cruz as president would routinely swat down bills passed by Congress if they contained elements of compromise.
With Cruz Id be worried about opposition along the lines that things dont go far enough, the GOP senator added.
Republican senators say Trump could prove a stronger general election candidate than Cruz because of his appeal to independent voters, but the polling has been contradictory.
A new NBC News/Wall Street Journal survey shows that Clinton and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who is also vying for the Democratic nomination, would beat Trump by double-digits in a general election match-up. The same survey showed Cruz trailing Clinton by only 2 points and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) tied with her at 46 percent.
But other polls show Trump beating Clinton in the key battlegrounds of Florida and Ohio.
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who dropped out the 2016 presidential race in December, has suggested that Republicans should rally around Cruz.
Cruz and Graham spoke on the phone last week but Graham, who quipped that having to choose between Trump and Cruz is like picking between being shot or poisoned, said he doesnt have any plans to make an endorsement.
I go back and forth between them, another GOP senator told The Hill Wednesday. Theyre both so unpredictable.
The legislator added that he and his colleagues have been reluctant to come out publicly against Trump because they fear endorsing a rival would only backfire.
A lot of us are afraid, well not afraid, but reluctant to come out for someone because it will probably help Trump. Trump will just say, See, there goes the establishment, the Republican senator said.
Stuffing the Establishment is delicious.
good, you heard of her , or at least found her on Google.
Was she the innocent non-partisan you claimed she was in your post?
If Jeb had 1000 delegates and a set of outsiders including Trump, Cruz and Carson had the rest of the delegates, I am sure you would see it differently.
You would say, “Look, it is obvious that people wanted an outsider candidate this election. It is only fair that the delegates from the outsider candidates should coalesce behind one of them.”
In any other scenario you would see that the delegate/convention process is a good one. If it wasn’t your guy you would see that if the candidate with a plurality of votes going into the convention ends up losing, it isn’t necessarily a breach of “basic decency”. It is simply the long standing rules of the party nomination process.
Not to mention how rich it is that a Trump supporter is calling for “basic decency” in the first place. Decent in what way? Calling people fat and ugly? That kind of decency?
I like cruz but he is wrong. The appeal of Trump is he is not beholden to anyone... even his supporters. Politicians keep saying... he is “unpredictable political speak for ... is not compromised so cant be controled by us.” People know he pisses off the establishment and they want that. We want to see from the moment the oath is taken he signs executive orders killing off previous executive orders.... The Problem the congress has is, Trump has the political clout to walk into their districts and point to a guy and say, you should nominate this guy over the constituent. And it would happen. He could primary out so many that they are scared to death to say anything about him. Which is great. Trump knows this and they are holding their breath hoping they dont get called on in class.
You must be a Trumpeteer, and Trump is currently my #2, so I won't tell you to STFU.
agreed
I totally agree with you!
I disagree.. I think Cruz is conservative but it is not the driving force of what is motivating voters. First and foremost they want the establishment to convulse blood. They want there to be the stench of burning political flesh of every Trent Lott, Boehner, and every other republican that has used fear and promises to not only not deliver but to do exactly what the democrats wanted..... Cruz brings reason.... the time for reason is past. They want a political club with a spike in it, swinging indiscriminately until there is none standing. Then we can rebuild and God help those with short term memories.
Good points - we’re a Republic not a “democracy.”
Rule by the majority (inner cities) isn’t where we want to go.
But what about the push polls which the Trump-haters lap up that show Hillary beating Donald Trump?
And yet the lawmakers, "on background", apparently think Trump has a better chance to beat Hillary.
It's almost as if those PR firm-based polls (underwritten and promulgated by major networks in order to create a veneer of legitimacy) are intended to manipulate the public into not voting for the candidate most likely to beat Hillary.
We'd better hope that some GOP candidate garners a clear majority of delegates, because chaos will ensue otherwise...
Yes, that's why Senator Jeff Sessions endorsed Donald Trump and is working in his campaign...
What's your point? Are you saying that a candidate with few or no delegates should be handed the nomination? Wow.
You do not miss the irony of a Washington GOP senator concern trolling that Trump may not remain conservative once elected?
Why shite!
That’s exactly what he and his cronies do
Talk big game to get elected and then bend over like Belle Starr at a mining camp on payday 10 minutes after swearing in
The hubris of the Fear Trump melodrama
IT'S ONE VOTE PER PERSON.
GRAHAM HAS THE SAME 'POWER OF THE VOTE' AS THE GUY WHO SWEEPS THE FLOORS IN THE SENATE.
One Man - One Vote.
Get over yourselves GOP Senators... you're starting to look like fools.
What are you doing being logical and conservative, as everyone used to be, on this site? I thought we were all supposed to be out of our minds with Trump fever!
have you noticed they take their talking points they are given and just repeat them?
Now it is lowly educated being put out by the establishment and cruz, OK cruz is one of them now, but they miss the part of highly educated, old, young.
The they wonder why they are now looked at as drones.
LOL, Here is me thinking it was the establishment who fought Reagan just like they are fighting Trump with the help of now the establishment front runner cruz.
"We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated." Donald Trump
Neil Bush would seem to be a non-solution to almost everything.
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