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Who’s more terrifying: Donald Trump or Ted Cruz?
The New Statesman ^ | March 8, 2016 | Henry Zeffman

Posted on 03/09/2016 4:38:04 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Mitt Romney, once a Massachusetts moderate, was mocked four years ago for describing himself as "severely conservative". Romney was undoubtedly a conservative, and his presidential platform would put him way on the rightmost edges of mainstream political discourse in the UK. But to see a genuinely "severe" conservative, we only had to wait for the four-year cycle to roll around once more.

No, not Donald Trump. Ted Cruz, the Texan Senator. Cruz is very, very conservative. His policy positions are broadly archetypal of the modern Republican party, but taken to their most extreme limits.

He is, of course, anti same-sex marriage, but he went further by also supporting "unequivocally" Kim Davis, the Kentucky clerk who was jailed for contempt of court after refusing to issue marriage licences to same-sex couples.

He is, naturally, opposed to reducing carbon emissions - in fact, Cruz doesn't believe that global warming is even happening.

He believes so strongly that American foreign policy has failed over the past eight years that he claimed that, on account of "Obama-Clinton" policies, "the whole world is on fire".

Yes, Cruz is a severe conservative. What's more, currently running in a not-too-distant second to Trump in the delegate tally, he may also be the Republican party's best chance of stopping the business magnate. On Saturday, Cruz won contests in Kansas and Maine, and took the same number of delegates as Trump from Louisiana after finishing a close second. His path to the nomination is still difficult to see, but he is clearly in second place, with nearly double the number of delegates as Marco Rubio.

Trump, by contrast, is not really a conservative. He is a populist, an aggravator, and a narcissist affecting various extreme stances for a disillusioned Republican electorate. In fact, Trump does particularly well among self-identified moderate Republicans, perhaps because of his lack of interest in cutting social security, and his qualified defence of Planned Parenthood, the biggest provider of reproductive health services, including abortion, in the US.

Whose proximity to the presidency is more terrifying? Ted Cruz or Donald Trump's? Severe conservatism or insincere populism? Or, as leftwing commentator Owen Jones puts it, TB or cholera?

Some liberals appear to think that Trump is the more benign, or rather less malevolent, force. The argument runs something like this. Yes, Trump has said some horrifying things. But he doesn't really believe it, as his repeated switches in party registration show (since 1987, he was registered as a Democrat, then a Republican, then Reform, then a Democrat, then an Independent, then a Republican). Indeed, when he left the Republican Party in 1999, his stated reason was "I just believe that the Republicans are just too crazy right".

So, not only is Trump more moderate on some issues than Cruz, but if he were to become president he would abandon some of the more unsavoury and unenforceable parts of his prospectus. He wouldn't actually build a wall along the Mexican border, and he wouldn't actually ban all Muslim immigration. These are just radical initial negotiating positions, mere affectations from a clever but nasty man with a good idea of what the poorly educated and the desperately poor want to hear.

By contrast, Cruz believes what he says. Sure, his policy platforms involve the usual finesses of a politician running for elected office, but his trenchant conservatism was honed at Princeton, at Harvard, as an adviser to George W Bush and as Texas' solicitor general. He has thought hard about what he would like to do as president, and this is what he has come up with. Trump plays on voters' fears because he thinks it will curry support; Cruz plays on their fears because he harbours the very same fears.

I follow that reasoning, I just draw the opposite conclusion. Trump is the more worrying prospect precisely because he doesn't believe what he says.

First, there is the pragmatic electoral case. If Trump secures the Republican nomination, it would be little surprise to see him tack to the centre and make a serious play for the votes of Democrats and independents. It's still likely that Hillary Clinton would be able to repel that challenge, but Trump has shown a remarkable ability to cloud out accusations of hypocrisy with pugilistic rhetoric and abrasive charisma.

Were Cruz the candidate, there would be scant moderation of his views. Clinton can go into battle against Cruz armed with liberal ideas; a contest with Trump, whose populist appeal is far more nebulous, would be less straightforward. Either way, it will be a dirty campaign that will aggressively target the personality of the first woman presidential candidate, but there's plenty of reason to think that Trump would fare better than Cruz.

Second, and probably more importantly, there is a principled case for Cruz over Trump. Cruz wants to be president to do something, and we broadly know what that something is. Trump doubtless never expected to get this far and it's still unclear what he would actually do if he became president, other than paint the White House gold and rename it the Trump House.

The motivation matters. It may be worrying for American liberals to see so many endorsing Cruz's ideals. It is surely far more worrying to see people finding their political salvation in a man who does not even believe what he is telling them. A Cruz presidency would threaten many central tenets of the post-New Deal American state. A Trump presidency would threaten American democracy. I hope neither transpires, but I know which I'd prefer.


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KEYWORDS: cruz; cruzbush2016; cuckservative; hillary; romney; tedcruz; trump
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1 posted on 03/09/2016 4:38:05 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Romney was undoubtedly a conservative, and his presidential platform would put him way on the rightmost edges of mainstream political discourse in the UK

I've seen Barack Hussein Obama identified as being "center-right".

I loathe Stalinists.

2 posted on 03/09/2016 4:39:46 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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Bernie Sanders


3 posted on 03/09/2016 4:41:11 AM PST by chimera
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Who’s more terrifying: Donald Trump or Ted Cruz?

Hillary Clinton.

4 posted on 03/09/2016 4:41:28 AM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He believes so strongly that American foreign policy has failed over the past eight years that he claimed that, on account of "Obama-Clinton" policies, "the whole world is on fire".

Middle East is burning and bleeding as a result of Obama-Clinton's "regime change" aka Arab Spring revolt (they did NOT back one for Iran, BTW) which in reality was Muslim Brothehood Islamist Revolution.

5 posted on 03/09/2016 4:41:46 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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Known by their enemies, I’m fine with Trump or Cruz.

Sad that dolts like the author are in any position to be published.


6 posted on 03/09/2016 4:42:40 AM PST by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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7 posted on 03/09/2016 4:44:01 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (Michelle Obama, The Early Years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYGxBlFOSU)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ted Cruz is not Constitutionally eligible to hold the office of president.


8 posted on 03/09/2016 4:44:22 AM PST by Godebert (CRUZ: Born in a foreign land to a foreign father.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Clinton first after what we have seen and we have been through miserable 7 years under a fairy.


9 posted on 03/09/2016 4:44:22 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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on a bare existence ksvel, Obozo has proved that it doesn’t matter who becomes president. The notion has survived The Kenyan, it’ll easily survive and probably thrive with either Cruz or Trump.


10 posted on 03/09/2016 4:44:39 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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Yawn.


11 posted on 03/09/2016 4:45:15 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ 2016)
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Now that Cruz has a GOPe Bush working with him he scares me WAY more than Trump.


12 posted on 03/09/2016 4:45:36 AM PST by TheStickman (If we don't elect a PRO-America president in 2016 we lose the country!)
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To: ConservativeWarrior

Cruz is how the GOPe gets Hillary elected. Cruz is a complete loser on the national stage. So nominate him, blandly support him and when is is devastated in November, its another reason why conservatives cannot be elected. Great strategy by the GOPe.


13 posted on 03/09/2016 4:46:02 AM PST by anton
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They use the word “terrifying” like they don’t know what it means.


14 posted on 03/09/2016 4:46:39 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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level, that is


15 posted on 03/09/2016 4:46:40 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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“Obozo has proved that it doesn’t matter who becomes president.”

I’m not so sure. Libya, Syria, Egypt, Iran, Ukraine, Crimea, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen.


16 posted on 03/09/2016 4:48:17 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: chimera

thats the irony....to these morons Trump or Cruz are terrifying yet bernie BS sanders is an intellectual...


17 posted on 03/09/2016 4:48:18 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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That’s easy. In any normal time, I’d say its the admitted, proud socialist in the race, Bernie Sanders. But this year, even that’s topped on the ‘terrifying’ scale by a wide margin by Hillary Clinton.

Still, the most terrifying thing of all in American politics are the 60 million or so absolute retards who will vote in November for whichever one of these two ends up as the Dem nominee.


18 posted on 03/09/2016 4:49:56 AM PST by VOR78
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To: chajin

“Who’s more terrifying: Donald Trump or Ted Cruz?

Hillary Clinton.”

We have a winner!


19 posted on 03/09/2016 4:50:24 AM PST by Fai Mao
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To: TheStickman

Now that Cruz has a GOPe Bush working with him he scares me WAY more than Trump.


I agree.

Paradigm shift from lib vs. conservative to globalism vs. national sovereignty. GOPe support comes with a price—loss of sovereignty.


20 posted on 03/09/2016 4:50:38 AM PST by Freedom56v2 (nd with Sheriff Joe, Phyllis Schlafly, Jerry Falwell Jr, Sarah Palin, Pat Robertson, Willie :))
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