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*LIVE 3/8/16 GOP Primary Thread (MI, MS, ID, HI)*
self | 3/8/16 | tatown

Posted on 03/08/2016 5:24:01 AM PST by tatown

Hawaii · 19 delegates Last poll closes at 11:00 PM CT

Idaho · 32 delegates Last poll closes at 10:00 PM CT

Michigan · 59 delegates Last poll closes at 8:00 PM CT

Mississippi · 40 delegates Last poll closes at 7:00 PM CT


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii; US: Idaho; US: Michigan; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: 2016gopprimary; cruz; gop; hawaii; idaho; mi2016; michigan; mississippi; primary; republican; republicans; rubio; trump
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To: McCarthysGhost

Diebold machines have me very concerned. I am investigating them, their operating procedures, and the people authorized to oversee them. Red flags are in view.

But I am an objective researcher and will not jump to conclusions until there is rock solid evidence. And if I have a mountain of evidence without finding a nail in the coffin, I will turn it over to persons I know who may be able to see things I missed.

I actually hope to find Diebold vulnerabilities to be much ado about nothing. It would be so much easier to close the investigation.


201 posted on 03/08/2016 12:32:42 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: tatown

HI should go to Cruz.
Remakably high LDS population.
Caucus.
Cruz has done some island out reach.

Any other result would honestly surprise me.


202 posted on 03/08/2016 12:37:46 PM PST by BlueNgold (May I suggest a very nice 1788 Article V with your supper...)
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To: BlueNgold

I think it will a Trump Clean-sweep. Just a gut feeling. Not necessarily by large margins.


203 posted on 03/08/2016 12:41:55 PM PST by Tuxedo (DOPe - desperate old party establishment)
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To: Tuxedo

I’m nervous about Michigan tightening.
I’m nervous about MS going full Cochran.
ID is so sparsely populated its hard to gauge for a primary.
HI is volatile, low percentage of pubs, caucus, and the Romney/LDS connection could matter.

We could get anything from a freight train to another split decision.

The only thing I have confidence in is that Rubio will likely hit the matt. Question there is will it be a standing 8 or a KO?


204 posted on 03/08/2016 12:50:45 PM PST by BlueNgold (May I suggest a very nice 1788 Article V with your supper...)
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To: Hostage
Thank you for your investigative work. The Diebold machines have been of real concern, especially the people authorized to oversee them. How do you monitor that? Red flags all over the place. . and then there's the LC articles on this Robert Mercer guy (top article and scroll down) who has evidently some code or software that can affect elections by 15%? Do you know anything about Mercer? Was he told to stand down after the Sea Island confab?
205 posted on 03/08/2016 12:57:07 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: grania

Better Kasich than Cruz. With Cruz we get the NAFTA, one world continent. Look how well the EU has worked out. Heidi is very involved in seeing our nationality lost forever.


206 posted on 03/08/2016 12:58:17 PM PST by WVNan
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To: Hostage

Please do. Keep me posted. I assume they can be hacked?


207 posted on 03/08/2016 1:02:14 PM PST by McCarthysGhost (We need to repeal and replace the Republican Party)
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To: WVNan
Kasich governs like a Democrat on social issues. He's more into state control and initiatives that enrich his deep pocket donors. But, on the plus side, he gets it that there's nothing that can save the middle class except for manufacturing jobs coming back to the US. Besides that, he was a conservative budget balancer in the HOR. He seems more independent-minded than total puppets of the elite are.

That's not an endorsement of Kasich. All I'm saying is that I don't think he's evil. At this point I'd prefer Kasich to Cruz.

208 posted on 03/08/2016 1:12:00 PM PST by grania
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To: BlueNgold
I’m nervous about Michigan tightening.

Only one credible poll showed that. Both Mitchell and Trafalgar, conducted at the same time, found Trump way ahead. I'm not saying be overconfident but it's hard to imagine Trump losing here.

I’m nervous about MS going full Cochran.

Polls taken a week or so ago found Trump way up. We haven't had any recent polls but if you're concerned about what happened in LA, don't forget that was a closed primary while MS is open. It makes a fair bit of difference and some have pointed out that parts of LA are similar to TX which voted strongly for Cruz. As a means of comparison, Trump won the KY caucus on the same night, even though it was difficult terrain for him as a caucus rather than an open primary. With the exception of TX and OK, Trump has overwhelmingly dominated the South - particularly the Deep South and you don't get any more Deep South than Mississippi.

ID is so sparsely populated its hard to gauge for a primary. HI is volatile, low percentage of pubs, caucus, and the Romney/LDS connection could matter.

As much as I hate saying it, my gut feeling is that Cruz will win Idaho, because Cruz does well in caucuses and the mormons don't seem to like Trump as much. As for Hawaii, it's not at all impossible that Rubio or Trump will win there. Hawaii is overwhelmingly non-white, so that could play into Rubio's hands. But then again, I don't know.

We could get anything from a freight train to another split decision.

If by a split decision, you mean that two states go to Trump and two go to other candidates, then it's possible but don't forget that HI and ID are small states while MI and MS are the big prizes of the night. But Trump winning MS and MI by handsome/landslide margins would essentially be a freight train.

209 posted on 03/08/2016 1:17:46 PM PST by No Dems 2016
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To: reviled downesdad

Cruz already gave GOP their way with H1b visas, green cards, TPA, Corker amendment, and the list goes on.


210 posted on 03/08/2016 1:27:52 PM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: No Dems 2016

Just worried the full monty by all his enemies will take a toll.


211 posted on 03/08/2016 1:28:39 PM PST by tirednvirginia
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To: ObozoMustGo2012
Predictions??

If Trump loses even a single race there will be immediate accusations of fraud.

Related: There will be precisely ZERO accusations of fraud on the part of Trump no matter who wins.

212 posted on 03/08/2016 1:30:05 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Kenny

Didn’t Trump come out for H1B in the last debate too?


213 posted on 03/08/2016 1:30:32 PM PST by gore_sux (Ellison's Minnesotastan = America's terrorist training haven)
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To: gore_sux
No, but he's never clear on this. He wants foreign students who graduate from our schools to have the option to stay. He thinks we lose top talent when they have to leave. On H1b/guest visas:


214 posted on 03/08/2016 1:32:58 PM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: Art in Idaho

I have seen Mercer’s name in passing and others. Thanks for the link.

Hacking is plausible without offsite or backdoor entry.

One can plausibly go through the ‘front door’ of the system with a ballot. The ballot can be marked in a nonsensical way including deliberate errors to activate subroutines.

A complete scrub down entails complete information and walk-throughs involving every scenario, and then a review of communication and operating procedures that assure fraud is never able to get in.

A complete scrub down would be similar to reviewing and testing procedures for launching nuclear weapons. There is zero tolerance for error.

The concern is that once fraud is committed, it can be extremely difficult to determine which way the fraud went. This makes it difficult to prove in court.

In the 2004 gubernatorial election between Dino Rossi and Christine Gregoire, the fraud was proven to be 5 times the margin needed to reverse the outcome. Lawyers for the plaintiff (Rossi) proposed a proportional backing out of fraudulent votes, and this would have handed the election result back to Rossi who had won the election and survived a machine recount only to have previously unseen ballots appear during the 3rd manual recount that tipped the election to Gregoire.

The investigation showed without doubt that Rossi was robbed. For example, more than 500 homeless persons were registered to vote and had as their address the County election office (run by a democrat who was forced to resign). But the judge who was a homosexual democrat, after confirming there was indeed a large margin of fraud, ruled that the fraud could not be determined to have gone for or against either candidate.

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Judge-upholds-Gregoire-s-election-Rossi-won-t-1175262.php

This type of fraud has been repeated several times since, across the nation.

Again the concern is not so much the mode of fraud, hack or breach as it is having detection before it happens and authority to stop the counting. The concern is stopping it pre-emptively because it is near impossible to reverse it. It is similar to preventing an assassination rather than risk it happening and relying on doctors to save the victim. It’s a one-way manifestation, frying an egg, squeezing the tube dry, etc. not allowing for reversal.

I think Donald will win the nomination, but will need to spend federal campaign funds and possibly his own to survey the GOP precinct captains and poll workers to ensure they are indeed on his team. To me, the GOPe is joined at the hip with the democrats and they would as soon see Hillary elected than allow Trump in.

Politics is so dirty and dishonest, it will literally take some really strong and rough people to project physical force, and diligent eyes ready to pounce on cheaters. And we need to know how to train the watchful eyes and empower them to stop the crime before it goes too far.


215 posted on 03/08/2016 1:48:09 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Tuxedo

I just polled which way the wind is blowing (a big storm is about to come through) and Cruz is going to do a Clean Sweep. Just a gut feeling. ;-)


216 posted on 03/08/2016 1:51:23 PM PST by justlittleoleme
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To: tatown

Decision Desk
http://www.decisiondeskhq.com/march-8th-gop/


217 posted on 03/08/2016 2:19:56 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ 2016)
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To: justlittleoleme

I just came back from a couple mile walk and the wind is really strong out of the southwest, which unfortunately means Cruz is only going to win Hawaii ;-)

Look, as much as we prefer our particular candidate, if either Trump or Cruz becomes President, the GOP elites will have suffered the biggest lost in the history of the party and the people will be well served. That will be an epic win, if for no other reason that it might wipe a bunch of smug faces like that of Karl Rove off our TV screens.


218 posted on 03/08/2016 2:37:46 PM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first and then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: justlittleoleme

Storms here later too.... I liked Ted Cruz but have been disappointed in the retread attacks on Trump. I am also concerned about the CFR involvement of Heidi and also Goldman Sachs. Yes, Trump also concerns me. I am hoping that the frantic pace of the campaign and lack of sleep is leading to all these unforced errors on his part.


219 posted on 03/08/2016 2:41:33 PM PST by Tuxedo (DOPe - desperate old party establishment)
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To: reviled downesdad

You are deceived.


220 posted on 03/08/2016 2:43:53 PM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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