Posted on 03/02/2016 7:26:58 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal
Maine Gov. Paul LePage, who endorsed Donald Trump for president last Friday, claimed on Wednesday that Ted Cruz, like his Canadian-born daughters, is ineligible to be the president.
Asked on The Howie Carr Show why he endorsed Trump over Ted Cruz, LePage replied, Very simple. Its very simple. I am the most conservative governor that there is. Hes a first time senator. Hes not ready. Number one. Number two is I also have two daughters who were born in Canada. They had to be naturalized. They couldnt be natural. And so, I have a question there.
Funny how you seem to hate the DemoncRats LESS than you hate Trump.
No, they are not one in the same which I know would have been your knee jerk retort.
Nothing being said here will change who the eventual Republican Nominee will be. Such is Life in the FR Bubble. BTW - I'm not a Trumpster. I was a Cruzer, but I've moved on to worrying about the General Election.
Did I tickle your funny bone again?
That’s just not so. I thought Rubio might have a “natural born citizen’ problem because of his parents’ citizenship status at the time of his birth; I never thought Cruz was eligible because of his own Canadian birth, so I never thought he would run. I guess his strict interpretation of the Constitution ends when it comes to himself.
I’m sorry, but what in the heck are you talking about????
The Constitution specifically says that if you were here when the Constitution is adopted, you are eligible. Since the country JUST came to be, no one could be natural born citizens of the US before then.
Alexander Hamilton was definitely here when the Constitution was adopted!
You said...
“Such is Life in the FR Bubble”
I think we are all in a bubble of sorts here no matter who one supports
Including whether or not he really is who he claims to be. Everything is sealed.
I used his glue in grade school
Which is why it is amazing to see the animosity between some Posters.
You can literally feel the hatred coming from the typed words. Absolutely fascinating.
No matter what, I always ASSUMED we were on the same side.
Has it been this bad around here before?
Its worse than when Romney was running
Doesn’t matter. The point is to make it a “headline” that can be skewed to make Cruz look ineligble.
Then every other idiot with an ignorant opinion you know will quote it.
Asked on The Howie Carr Show why he endorsed Trump over Ted Cruz, LePage replied, Very simple. Its very simple. I am the most conservative governor that there is. Hes a first time senator. Hes not ready. Number one. Number two is I also have two daughters who were born in Canada. They had to be naturalized. They couldnt be natural. And so, I have a question there.
Do the daughters have papers for naturalization?
Have we seen a birth certificate or proof of citizenship for Ted Cruz? Just asking?
Eh sorry ,with all due respect, some did—especially during the H-1B Visa discussions.
You said...
Eh sorry ,with all due respect, some didespecially during the H-1B Visa discussions.
The H-1B Visa issue is a legitimate complaint when it comes to Cruz.
The issue of Cruz being eligible to run was supposed to have been settled here just 2 years ago and to argue otherwise was verboten and risk for being zotted.
What’s changed?
How come there is a thread with link of him being interviewed in 2013 where he states obama not natural born...because he needs 2 parents born on US soil?
Just asking?
http://www.newswithviews.com/JBWilliams/williams300.htm
Perhaps, we Trump supporters did not know that Cruz was born in Canada, and his father was a citizen of Cuba. I certainly did not. What I mistakenly thought was that Cruz was born here, his mother was a citizen, and his father was a legal resident in the process of becoming a citizen. Besides which, it doesn’t matter what I think, Trump is correct, Cruz is not eligible, and this will most certainly be an issue down the road.
If, as you claim, such "is documented in the text of a unanimous Supreme Court decision" why didn't some jurist in Topeka...or somewhere...raise his hand and point this out sometime during the two years between his announcement and election?
Yet, nobody did. Could it possibly be because you are mistaken?
The difference that I can see between Cruz’ situation and LePage’s daughters situation, is that Cruz’ mother was American, and LePage’s daughters’ father is an American. Otherwise, I do not see any difference whatsoever.
It is settled, not in the sense of a definitive SCOTUS decision that spells out all the parameters of the NBC question, but in terms of the current thinking on the issue. A number of recent cases have reinforced an idea often rejected here at FR, that the naturalization process cannot be applied to one who is born a citizen, that naturalization is strictly an after-birth event, and that the enumerated naturalization power of the Congress includes the ability to address those who do not need to be naturalized, which in turn means citizens at birth as recognized by the INA statutes are in fact natural born citizens. In Zivotofsky (2015), Justice Thomas has made this statement explicitly. See here:
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/576/13-628/concur5.html
So there’s a sense in which both sides of this are right. NBC is not defined in the Constitution, and there is not one case that ever determined presidential eligibility for a foreign born American citizen at birth. But the current thinking of SCOTUS showing up in the last two decades or so leaves almost no doubt that the Court would find Cruz eligible by unanimous decision.
Peace,
SR
You said...
“Trump is correct, Cruz is not eligible, and this will most certainly be an issue down the road.”
Funny, he said just the opposite last year(before Cruz became a threat)
I did not know Cruz was born in Canada or that his father was not a citizen until he decided to run for President and I researched him. Trump had nothing to do with my decision to drop Cruz like a hot potato.
He lied to me if only by omission.
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