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NY Judge To Decide If Ted Cruz Is American
Metro New York ^ | Today 1:07 pm | JASON NUCKOLLS

Posted on 02/29/2016 3:59:25 PM PST by drewh

A New York judge will hear arguments on Tuesday in a lawsuit that challenges Republican Sen. Ted Cruz’s ability to run for president given that he was born in Canada.

State Supreme Court Justice David Weinstein will hear the claim of two men who contend that Cruz is not a citizen of the U.S. and is therefore ineligible to run for president, NBC has reported. Cruz was born in Alberta, Canada.

Barry Korman and William Gallo will argue that despite Cruz’s mother being an American, the senator is not a citizen because such status cannot be passed from parent to child, Newsday reported.

The defense of Cruz’s place in the election is being argued by the New York Board of Elections, which put Cruz on the ballot, NBC added.

Cruz, a lawyer, was elected to be a senator from Texas in 2012, Newsday added.


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016issues; alexjones; birthers; canadian; cruz; cruzios; lawsuit; nbcofcanada; notnaturalborn; ruling; tinfoilhat; tinfoilhattrump
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To: drewh

How do these citizens have standing? Everything I have heard is that individual voters do not have standing to bring such a suit, but that another candidate might have standing.


41 posted on 02/29/2016 4:14:04 PM PST by mtrott
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To: drewh
I may be wrong but this is how I see it:

If you are a citizen automatically at birth, then you are natural born. If you are also born in the US, then you are native born.

42 posted on 02/29/2016 4:14:29 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: ought-six

True, but the state issue is whether he can be on the state’s ballot. Any decision will be appealed to the federal court.


43 posted on 02/29/2016 4:14:59 PM PST by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: drewh

Very poorly written article. Not unintentional I suspect.

The issue is whether Ted Cruz is a natural born citizen, which different than citizen.

One is naturally a US citzen when there is no alternative.
Born here of citizen parents.
If one could be something else because of place or parentage at birth, one cannot be a natural born citizen.


44 posted on 02/29/2016 4:15:01 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: novemberslady

Not according to these buffoons. They string together a 19th century quote here and there and claim that the law is “clear”. It is, and those who say Cruz and Rubio are not NBCs are wrong. This is beyond absurd.

If you want Trump and not Cruz or Rubio, fine. Vote for Trump. Just take off the tin foil hats, please.


45 posted on 02/29/2016 4:15:32 PM PST by theoilpainter
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To: faithhopecharity
not if born in Nam and not if Mama was not American citizen

When the Constitution was written the child followed the Father not the mother.

Before marriage tradition became under liberal assault, the woman became as one with the man, and the man was the one.

Logic dictates the child follows the father just as the child inherits his name to carry on the family.

Cruz's father was either a Canadian citizen or was in the process of becoming one.

You have to go back and look at the meaning of the words at the time they were written, not the modern day "living" changes.

If you're an originalist, that is.

46 posted on 02/29/2016 4:15:39 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: drewh

Wha? The Illinois judge isn’t doing it fast enough?


47 posted on 02/29/2016 4:15:39 PM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: centurion316

“The birthers are as persisent as are they ignorant.”

The ones who instituted this lawsuit have done this with no other intention than to distract the ignorant and hurt Cruz.

It was a deliberate act to stir up the ill-informed. Just one more sleazy Trump slur aimed at the media to carry and distract for a news cycle. The stumbling blindfolded are doing so.


48 posted on 02/29/2016 4:16:52 PM PST by Pirate Ragnar (Libs put feelings first and thought second.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“Are the children of Viet Nam vets born overseas to Vietnamese women NBC?”

No...


49 posted on 02/29/2016 4:17:05 PM PST by babygene (Make America Great Again)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

The 14th amendment was written to give the slaves ‘citizenship’ and after they were given citizenship then their children were ‘natural born citizens’ ...

The fore fathers gave themselves ‘citizenship’ so their offsprings could become ‘natural born citizens’....


50 posted on 02/29/2016 4:17:34 PM PST by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump; Trump; Trump; Trump; 100%)
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To: Safrguns
Dual citizenship?... fine... but his American citizenship is naturalized.

I think this is the crux of the argument. What naturalization process did Cruz go through? None as far as I know, and yet he has American citizenship. Does that not indicate that he had it from birth?

51 posted on 02/29/2016 4:19:18 PM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: JRochelle

That’s one opinion, which I think is how I personally think SCOTUS would rule, but who knows. Since there are constitutional experts on both sides, it clearly is not settled. That should be obvious, but I get attacked by both sides who claim their opinion is fact. Now what about this—it goes to SCOTUS and you have a 4/4 split on whether Cruz is eligible? What then?


52 posted on 02/29/2016 4:19:55 PM PST by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: JRochelle
Either he applied to become one or he was born a citizen.

Children born abroad must get a Consular Report of Birth Abroad (CRBA) which is sent to the State Department for approval.

They approve citizenship via statute, Cruz cannot be NBC if he became a citizen via statute.

Natural born requires nothing, you are NBC virtue of the soil and the parentS citizenship (blood).

53 posted on 02/29/2016 4:21:21 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: drewh

The Cuban Inquisition begins.


54 posted on 02/29/2016 4:21:30 PM PST by lee martell
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To: drewh

What is the standing of these two men?


55 posted on 02/29/2016 4:21:44 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

He has American CITIZENSHIP thru his mother, but he was not born on American Soil, so he isn’t ‘NATURAL BORN CITIZEN’...


56 posted on 02/29/2016 4:21:51 PM PST by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump; Trump; Trump; Trump; 100%)
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To: babygene

Agree, by the same logic neither is Cruz.

Not that it really matters anymore, the constitution is only as good as what is convenient for today.


57 posted on 02/29/2016 4:22:43 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: drewh

If this gets approved, then Obama should never have been president.


58 posted on 02/29/2016 4:24:04 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: drewh

59 posted on 02/29/2016 4:24:19 PM PST by Donglalinger
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To: Durbin

Maybe they can shop for a judge in Travis county. Austin has a kangaroo court system that targets Republican politicians and the grand juries of Democrats are willing to oblige.


60 posted on 02/29/2016 4:24:37 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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