Posted on 02/29/2016 3:59:25 PM PST by drewh
A New York judge will hear arguments on Tuesday in a lawsuit that challenges Republican Sen. Ted Cruz’s ability to run for president given that he was born in Canada.
State Supreme Court Justice David Weinstein will hear the claim of two men who contend that Cruz is not a citizen of the U.S. and is therefore ineligible to run for president, NBC has reported. Cruz was born in Alberta, Canada.
Barry Korman and William Gallo will argue that despite Cruz’s mother being an American, the senator is not a citizen because such status cannot be passed from parent to child, Newsday reported.
The defense of Cruz’s place in the election is being argued by the New York Board of Elections, which put Cruz on the ballot, NBC added.
Cruz, a lawyer, was elected to be a senator from Texas in 2012, Newsday added.
And have it ratified by the states....of course you knew that.
Yes, I remember that very well.
Not a Cruzer, but it makes me kind of mad to think they’re looking into his eligibility in light of that.
I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if they declare him ineligible just to throw gas on the fire.
Everyone kept Captain Chaos hid from the uniparty to the media. Both sides did this to our country.
I will never forgive them.
“We’ve never seen his CRBA”
If he does not have one, he is not a citizen.
If he has one, he is not “natural born”
Either way -not eligible.
Yes, either that or allegedly.
at least one that was published, but was it ‘fake’ which IMHO it is,
It was (stupidly) posted online. If they had simply printed it, you wouldn't be able to delaminate it and look at the various PDF layers...it absolutely is fake.
I would choose the one from Kenya because it looks more real...
So would I, but whether it is or not, at least whomever released it had the good common sense to photocopy it first...that's why it looks more real.
I read a quote from a kid who knew Cruz in school (maybe middle school or later grade school years) who said Cruz said he was a Canadian citizen in school.
“any turd-whirled dirtbag is eligible to serve as US President.”
Not any. No conservative “turd-whirled dirtbag” is eligible.
“now they’re running the public schools, higher education, the media, and the country.”
The new world order will be a fascist world order. The
Bush’s, Clinton’s and the Obama want this. They have infiltrated
much more than you mention. The Catholic Church and the
Republican party. It is now to the point where it’s obvious
the Republican party in part is a false front of opposition
to the continuous march to national socialism (fascisum).
I don’t care what kind of lipstick you put on the tards,
McCain and Cornyn are lying liberals to the core.
Chester Arthur’s problem was his father was born in Ireland and did not become a US citizen until Chester was 14. He burned papers when there was some doubt about his NBC qualification. People back then understood that a NBC meant “born on the soil to US citizen parents”. Nothing has changed except shyster commiepuke lawywers and globalists pulling the wool over Americans’ eyes.
BOOOM! Shaka-laka-laka!
That is the law and it is a law within the original intent of the Constitution.
Then surely you can cite the statute with a full quote defining a Natural Born Citizen as someone born on the soil of another country with one citizen and one foreign national parent. Or on US soil with two foreign national parents.
Ping me when you quote the statute, ‘kay?
Yeah, I think maybe high school. He wanted to go on a field trip or something and needed ID which showed him to be a Canadian.
Well I had to leave something for you and the others.
http://www.immigration-usa.com/ina_96_title_3.html
You got it, Bro.
By the way, are you by your question stipulating that the Constitution itself does not provide a definition of “Natural Born Citizen”.
During the discussion of this thread, Mr. Cruz and Mr. Rubio have both been wheeled into the Emergency Room and are awaiting for the arrival of the Political Medical Examiner to appear upon which they will both be pronounced politically death. At least for this election.
There is no “current law” or previous case precedent that is understood to match the facts of Cruz’s case. Questions similar to Cruz’s case about whether he is a natural born citizen (NBC) is certainly not settled law. Both sides have strong and vociferous arguments.
This is a federal constitutional question and should have long since been decided in federal court. Cruz’s failure and resistance to see it decided in federal court speaks to me of political prospects as more important to Cruz than America’s future.
He should allow this to be decided in federal court and I hope he wins, but I’m unhappy with his reluctance to have this settled one way or the other.
Guys, the exact meaning of NBC as relates to Cruz is an open federal constitutional question and Cruz should have had this decided in federal court by now.
Not necessarily. An amendment, like any law, may try to cover all known contingencies. But as we know, unanticipated contingencies come up and that is where the courts come in - to try to deal with unique facts in individual cases.
The answer here is not a long-draw out process of an amendment but a federal court ruling in its best good-faith effort to find constitutional original intent and understanding of NBC. Either way, it looks like a close call but a federal court must be allowed to decide. Cruz should have allowed this to happen a long time ago.
>>> What naturalization process did Cruz go through? None as far as I know, and yet he has American citizenship.
Naturalization means that you gain citizenship by an act of congress. The immigration process is only one of many acts of congress governing naturalization of citizens.
Congress has passed several laws which grant automatic citizenship in certain circumstances... such as anchor babies... and in Ted Cruz’s case, 1 citizen parent born overseas. Now... it may have been required that Ted’s mother file paperwork to establish his citizenship when he was born, but I don’t know if it was a requirement or if it was or was not done... in either case his citizenship would be considered naturalized.
>>> Uh, doesn’t that depend on the laws of the two countries?
Uh... no.
The laws of any country regarding citizenship have to do with naturalization.
Inheritance of citizenship is automatic...(”Law of Nations”) It can only happen at the time of birth.
I am not aware of any country which doesn’t automatically consider natural born citizens to be citizens. They may require registration (such as our SSN), but that would not change their status as a NBC.
You're simply not getting this.
All statute law rests upon the Constitution, not the other way around. No law can supersede, or define the dominant charter upon which it is based, and from which it derives its legitimate legality.
The words and meaning of the Constitution cannot be modified by any statute law, and in fact, any law which is repugnant to the Constitution, is without legitimacy or force, and should be considered null and void on its face.
The reason this issue continues to rear its ugly head, is because it has never been fully settled. Certainly not by any mere legislation, which is wholly subservient to our founding charter.
The only constitutional way to put an end to the misunderstandings and disagreements, is for Congress to pass an amendment clarifying the NBC clause once and for all. Not even the Supreme Court can adjudicate the meaning of the Framers.
Again, the word, 'natural', is key here. It indicates that, by the very condition of a person's birth, they can't be anything BUT an American citizen. No law is required to define such a person's citizenship, because they are, by nature, one thing, and one thing only -- an American citizen.
One morning, the little kid woke up and thought how great it would be
to be President [of the United States] , like all little kids do.
hmmm . . problem . .
/ / / / / / /
hmmmmm do I recall someone saying that he said something like that when younger - hmm
Except Arthur was born in the USA. Cruz was not. That still leaves Cruz as our only president born as a foreign citizen
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