Posted on 02/19/2016 4:14:33 PM PST by TraditionalMerica
One of the things here I've noticed is that there's a debate going on about this topic. Donald Trump is right and I've said it, but come under fire. See the tweet below:
Boycott all Apple products until such time as Apple gives cellphone info to authorities regarding radical Islamic terrorist couple from Cal— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 19, 2016
It would be one thing to talk about doing this to people who are alive. But the Radical Islamic Terrorists who carried out San Bernadino are dead. I don't care about their civil liberties. Keep America safe, which will help make it great again.
They do not have a key. How about doing a little research before saying things that are not true.
Says who?
“Nothing quite like making statements based on ignorance...”
Yeah, like this stupid post. You can’t ignore the 4th amendment.
Well unfortunately that can and have been.
2.If I could crack into the IPhone would I let the terrorist know?
3. Would I cover this fact up by suing Apple to provide this information?
A good analogy is you need your front door lock changed and the locksmith wants all your city homes locks re-keyed to be the same as yours...
I’m kind of interested in what Rush will have to say about Trump’s comments given his love of Apple products, but he’s not back until Monday morning and Trump’s comments should change at least 6 times between now and then.
Agree with all you said. Long ago, I was an email administrator. The department director wanted me to go into an employee's email and get evidence to use against that employee. I refused. Director got upset with me. I then patiently explained that any hacker with good enough skills could modify email packets, or insert new ones, spoofing the sender ID and source information. I told him it would be easy to plant emails incriminating him. Director turned white and backed off. Email systems are more secure nowadays. But the point is, I believe government would blackmail even innocent citizens to achieve their aims. You don't have to be a terrorist for them to harm you.
I’m with Trump. Why should any company be allowed to, essentially, sponsor terrorism in this country?
I don’t like Apple, Trump, or the government, but Apple is right.
I am pro Trump but on this issue he is an ass. He better wake up that regular Americans are tired of being spied on.
Trump is not a very deep thinker.
Yeah, me too. That was a flat note. Perhaps he will back off after looking at the larger issue.
“A good analogy is you need your front door lock changed and the locksmith wants all your city homes locks re-keyed to be the same as yours...”
That would be a good analogy if it wasn’t so wrong. The warrant was for one key to unlock one phone...as described in the warrant specifically and which is provided for by the 4th amendment...not all the phones in the world...or “the city.” That universal key horse shit is what the company who wants to sell encrypted phones to all the cartels, jihadists and boy lovers out there. Ain’t gonna happen. It’s how the gubmint can do the ONLY thing it should be doing...providing a common defense. Without it, we are more in the dark than we are now.
(You can’t ignore the 4th amendment.)
Yes, let’s do everything we can to protect the “rights” of two dead scumbag murderers. Well done!!
I don’t see the problem. Just watch any modern cops-n-robber show, and their own geeks can hack into any cell phone they want. They can even listen to phone conversations that were never recorded, or log on to a cell tower to GPS track a phone days after the travel.
My favorite is when the photo geeks can zoom in on a car a mile away and clear up a 4 pixel license plate and read the number.
There is no key to unlock the phone....
I’d take the word of people who know what they are talking about....
I could care less what Apple says....
A technical perspective on the Apple iPhone case
Electronic Frontier Foundation
By Joseph Bonneau
February 18, 2016
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/02/technical-perspective-apple-iphone-case
“For example, it might not be simple for the cracking software to determine for certain which phone it is running on. In this case, one risk would be that the software attempts to only run on Farook’s phone, but there’s a way to modify other phones to fool the cracking software into running on them as well, turning a device-specific key into a master key.”
You’ve gotten right to the heart of the matter. Excellent post.
“There is no key to unlock the phone....”
Well, if I were to believe that...and I don’t...and I had the power to do so, I would tell them to move their coprorate hq to some third world shithole that has a Totalitarian government and might allow them to flaunt the law for a piece of the action. Because, they can’t stay here unless we change it. We can’t ive it to you is not the correct response to a focused direct and fully lawful order from Ameicaan justice. No matter what everyone might “thnk” will happen, you can’t have laws without enforcing them. If they relly don’t have one, they’ll have to get one.
I, for one, would like to know more about the scum sucking bastard who gunned down all those people. That is why we have the 4th amendment.
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