George W Bush: Iraq Had No WMDs

youtube.com ^ | August 21 2006 | GWB

[Helicondelta]

Bush says Iraq had no WMDs, at press conference.

[CrimsonTidegirl]

“Bush thought Saddam tried to assassinate his father. Nothing else mattered but to get revenge.”

Spot on. You nailed it.

[HLPhat]

What was it Saddam sprinkled on the Kurds then - magic fairy dust?

http://www.google.com/#q=saddam%20hussein%20gassed%20iraqi%20kurds%20in%201988

 

The only thing I FReeping regret about Iraq...

...is that the FReeping promise wasn't kept.

[bert]

actually, Iraq was given freedom and their old men took it away

[HLPhat]

>>Iraq was given freedom

Yep.

http://theregularguybelieves.blogspot.com/2014_06_01_archive.html

 

But then human nature did what it always profitably does.

Same ol' Ba'al manure, different municipal toilet.

[Ransomed]

When this story first broke the first thing I thought of was the truck convoys into Syria and how no one really made a big deal about them. I found this article which alleges Russia facilitated the possible removal of the current WMDs before and during the invasion. I have no idea if it is legit or not.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/oct/28/20041028-122637-6257r/?page=all#pagebreak

He either approved or had a motivation to just let it go because it wasn’t actually a big deal to him, or had knowledge that there wasn’t really anything to it.
“Now we have to invade Syria to get the WMDs that were moved there” might have been politically and militarily counter productive to what he was trying to do in Iraq?

Freegards

[Alberta's Child]

You mean like the United States, who in 2015 is still the only nation in the history of the world to use “weapons of mass destruction” on civilian populations?

[Alberta's Child]

Bump to that.

I've said for years that the U.S. had no business getting involved in the first Gulf War, and if anything was on the wrong side.

Doesn't it strike anyone as odd that U.S. foreign and military policy over the last 25+ years always seems to be aligned with major donors to the Clinton Foundation and real estate investment partners of the Bush family?

[Robert DeLong]

So you are saying we were irresponsible to have used them when we did? However, WMD extends to more than just nuclear weapons, so your statement doesn’t pass as valid.

[a fool in paradise]

This is not front page news. But you are new around here so I’ll let it slide.

[a fool in paradise]

What was the argument that Obama used for taking us to war against Libya and approving of the torture,abuse, and murder of a POW named Momar Gaddafi?

“WE came, WE saw, HE DIED!! ha ha” - Sec. of Hate Hillary Clinton on SeeBS News.

[napscoordinator]

Oh no. I was cheerleading right with everyone else. The marketing was brilliant on this war. Nobody on Earth would go against the war machine back then due to the intense negativity that was thrown at you. Nope....I was sold. Trump was smarter then all of us. I am THANKFUL that Trump was against it because he can throw that at Hillary all day and night during the general. It is a wonderful place to be in for Trump.

[Robert DeLong]

Trump was smarter then all of us

Or maybe not, but he certainly can claim that to be his stance. Trump is not above playing the political game, which may even include changing positions when he thinks it might benefit him and feels confident no one can prove otherwise. He may even be doing it to pick up some voters who did not like Bush, and agreed with the war initially.

I liked Bush and the job he had done in his first term, which is why I voted for him for a second term. However, I had less support for his leadership in the second term because I didn't think he had any business engaging in nation building. Instead I though as long as he was in that region, take out Iran too. Many Iranians were even begging for him to do that.

Then I would have turned on Saudi Arabia and put them on notice that they were not beyond the realm of consideration for retaliation should citizens of their country ever threatened us again with terroristic acts. Especially since the terrorists got material aid from members of the Saudi Royal family.

[BeadCounter]

So you are saying we were irresponsible to have used them when we did? However, WMD extends to more than just nuclear weapons, so your statement doesn’t pass as valid.

True; if one follows the news, there have been stories of ISIS having WMDs these past few days and the stories are not talking about even dirty bombs, they are talking about chemical weapons.

[napscoordinator]

I have a hard time with Jeb. First of all, I don’t like him bragging about being a great Governor when he finished in 2002 which was a lifetime ago in regards to our country. Pissed nobody calls him out on that. And then he is weirdly close to his Mommy and Daddy. He is 63 years old for goodness sakes. And as far as getting mad at Trump for bringing his family into the discussion, both father and brother were Presidents and can be brought into the conversation even negatively. It is not like we are bringing out Kasich family who was not involved in politics.....Bush family is different. And another thing I don’t like is that he tried to pretend he wasn’t a Bush until he found out he could not stand on his own and then be brings out his family.....I hate that most.

[dfwgator]

Yes hindsight is 20/20, but getting involved in Iraq going all the way back to the first Gulf War was a disaster that this country will pay for for generations.

[dfwgator]

Bush’s biggest mistake was assuming Arabs would know what to do with freedom once they got it.

[Robert DeLong]

Chemical weapons are considered to weapons of mass destruction. Germany used them is WWI, Saddam used them against the Kurds, and Iran. Assad used them.

[Resolute Conservative]

I like isolationism at this point. Eff the world. I would not sacrifice one boy’s life in our military to protect anyone across either ocean or south of the river.

[Robert DeLong]

I agree, Jeb is not even on my radar, or many others it seems. He is baby Bush, and that is apparent when it comes to his family. They have always helped him get things done, and as such doesn't really know how to do it for himself. By the fact that he says illegals invade this country because of love just amplifies how out of touch with the real world he really is due to him being coddled all of his life. He thought because he was the presumed frontrunner he could waltz through the primary process. He may have even been told not to worry that he would eventually get the nomination in the Convention if he hadn't already gotten it from the voters.

A lot of what Bush is buying into, in my opinion, is that he is entitled, as well as, a shoo-in by his big donors and his handlers.

[Robert DeLong]

The problem with isolationism, is when you allow the wrong leaders (dictators and the like) to invade and gain territories and resources uncontested. That eventually leads to world wars. The good thing about our military is we can cause a lot of damage without placing any of our brave men and women in harms way who are willing to make sacrifices to protect this country. At least in the beginning. At some point in time it may require boots on the ground depending upon the circumstances.

But I agree the reasoning for engaging should be extremely compelling, and must constitute a high degree of threat to our national interest. It should be done as the Framer's intended, through an Act of War declared by Congress. If the President can accomplish engagement that does not put our brave men & women in harm's way then he is free to do so without an Act of War from Congress. Even that though should be limited and Congress should still be in control of the purse strings for those types of engagements. I don't want to neuter the President, but I don't want him capable of open-ended engagements at his sole discretion.