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When did Freepers turn so nasty? (vanity)
vanity
| 2/12/2016
| Optimist
Posted on 02/12/2016 10:04:27 PM PST by Optimist
Over the past several months, Free Republic has begun to show an ugly side of its members. Although admittedly comprised of many strong-willed, opinion-charged individuals presenting thoughtful, conservative insights into the topics of the day, this forum has begun to show a seamier side as the Trump-Cruz-Rubio-Carson 2016 Primary heated up. You all know what I mean. Many of you have either been at the giving or receiving end of EMOTIONALLY-charged attacks against various candidates or even individuals as their supporters.
Herewith a few thoughts I would like to share:
- Passion for a candidate and buying into the campaign is exciting and important for exposing others to knowledge and understanding more about "your" candidate.
- Most of us WILL NOT be able to have a voting impact on which individual becomes the candidate, so why such vitriol? A little perspective is really needed. What are you going to do if by mid-March (when only 20% of the country has had any type of primary vote) and your candidate has fallen off the slate? Face it ANY of these candidates are better than any Democrat or potential Independent opposition, and will have a better chance of being elected than nay 3rd/4th/obscure party candidate.
- When did we turn into the Ron Paul group? Sorry, I don't mean to offend, but you know what I mean: personality driven, my guy can do/say no wrong, I'm going to get in your face if you don't see things my way, and .... well, you hopefully see the similarity.
- None of the candidates is 100% perfect, but they all have characteristics that are admirable:
- Trump is politically astute and media savvy, and has made an apparent conversion to conservative principles with support driven primarily by his fight against illegal immigration, and actually opens New York as a potential electoral win.
- Cruz has a proven track record of fighting and winning for conservative causes, believes (along with other noteworthy legal minds) that he is eligible to be president, and is not afraid to stand up for and convincingly explain his position.
- Kasich, has a history of fighting for fiscal responsibility, understands the workings of both legislative and administrative politics as well as decision balancing and decision making in an important electoral state.
- Rubio is the new younger face of the Republican Party (hell, he's the younger face of the 2016 election) from one of the two critical electoral states in the past several elections, eloquently espousing conservatism and having shown his political chops by running and winning against an entrenched Democrat.
- Bush comes from a conservative background, with administrative experience in what has consistently been a crucial electoral state, with the potential for earning crossover votes from the Latino community.
- Carson presents the studied, calm outsider's perspective of the challenges we all know we face, speaking for many who are ready for the politicians to take a back seat and let intelligent people of good heart give it a try.
- Yes there are negatives for all of them, but this is THE BEST crop of candidates we have ever had to choose from, unlike past elections when it seemed inevitable that the hand-picked, it's-his-turn, establishment candidate was chosen for us. And, besides, go back and re-read number 2.
- And (finally?) a word about pundits: (Glenn Beck, Rush, Fox News, et. al.):
- Fox - yeah they seem to be coming down pretty hard on "our/my guy(s)" but they are still a lot better than almost any of the hacks on all of the other networks, and why are you surprised that they have a bias for/against any of the R candidates (aren't all of us exactly the same?) when we have always known journalists are NOT unbiased, but just hopefully, at Fox, a little more centered.
- Rush - has taken up the banner for many of the candidates and refuses (as always) to endorse one in particular, instead cheerleading the positive aspects of each because he knows one of them will be the only way to stop HillBerniBiden.
- Beck - is passionate and has done exactly what we want "our" media pundits to do: TAKE A STAND! I'm sorry if his choice and their definition of conservatism isn't yours, but at least he has the balls to speak up, stand by his candidate, and explain his principles in as objective a way as you could hope. Considering some of the nasty attacks I have seen recently against different candidates and their supporters, as well as Beck, it would seem we need to put up a mirror so we can each see ourselves as others see us. We are better than that.
Well, this is what happens when one (Ok, I) become frustrated with the ad-hominem attacks against so many good people both on this site, and otherwise supportive of conservatism and the rise of a conservative Republican Party. We are all decent, America-loving conservatives who are driven to strive for what is best for returning this country to its pride.
Please Freepers, make your best case, and trust that whoever eventually runs against the Demobeast will, with God's light, be the right person for the job.
Let the flame-war begin, I have donned my suit! And God bless.
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KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016gopprimary; cruz; cruzcontrol; cruzorlose; election; faq; trump; vanity
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To: Optimist
Excellent summation of the Republican candidates, but I have to take exception that it is a great “field”. Donald Trump is not and has never been a real conservative, he is nothing but an opportunist and I find it hard to believe he is getting so much support here. In all my years as a Republican conservative I can not recall a time where so many of my conservative friends have had so much dislike of a leading Republican candidate, Sure we weren’t happy with Dole. McCain and Romney but at least they were respected. For the first time in my life I’m hearing many say they could never support Trump. Freepers follow your head not your emotions.
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posted on
02/13/2016 5:17:53 AM PST
by
N.E.Nan
To: Optimist
I bailed a while back and stopped in on rare occasions. I left because there seemed to be too many sheeples hanging out here. Now this place seems to look and smell like an open sewer.
To: FreedomForce
actually, cop out, pretending to vote
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posted on
02/13/2016 5:19:41 AM PST
by
bert
((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
To: Optimist
My two cents:
1) It’s good that people care, are passionate and are on this site.
2) It’s easy to be an a$$ on-line. Don’t take it seriously.
3) Despite all the rhetoric, many have good points and it’s all edumacational.
4) God bless all the True FReepers. Patriots all. The rest...eff ‘em.
To: MarDav
Smart?
Yeah...
...but the OTHER monkeys were in power.
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posted on
02/13/2016 5:20:37 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: JPX2011
To: Elsie
I thinking lots of dried bones around he these days...Thanks for the scriptural reminder.
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posted on
02/13/2016 5:21:55 AM PST
by
MarDav
To: MarDav
I thinking I forgot’m ‘M’
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posted on
02/13/2016 5:22:47 AM PST
by
MarDav
To: yuleeyahoo
For myself, I do try not to say anything I will later regret and not be able to walk back.
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posted on
02/13/2016 5:24:12 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Optimist
I and many others have noticed FR took a nasty turn when Trump supporters started attacking Cruz and Cruz supporters in very vicious tones.
Many of us were shocked since Cruz is a proven conservative who is the only one willing to fight the GOPe.
Many Trump supporters have begun attacking conservatism itself.
Damn shame.
To: N.E.Nan
McCain and Romney but at least they were respected.Mitt was DESPISED! until he was the only one left...
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posted on
02/13/2016 5:26:53 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Optimist
Because during a campaign season the IQ around here drops to about 30. Not quite imbeciles, but not exactly morons either.
The people who spew their crap are generally old, empty nesters, who have alienated everyone in their real lives...so now the only ones left to screech about are in their cyber lives.
It is like watching two patients in a memory X are ward have an argument.
During the campaign season, the best thing you can do is read the articles, and skip the comments.
To: MarDav
Will these bones rise again?
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posted on
02/13/2016 5:28:17 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: gattaca
Yepper. I got attacked for posting a NON-political (read not germane to the subject of the day) topic!
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posted on
02/13/2016 5:28:58 AM PST
by
pa_dweller
(Go ahead Libs, drink the kool-aid. It's got electrolytes!)
To: one Lord one faith one baptism
Many of us were shocked since Cruz is a proven conservative who is the only one willing to fight the GOPe.Was he 'fighting' BEFORE Donald threw down the gauntlet?
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posted on
02/13/2016 5:29:36 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Vermont Lt
During the campaign season, the best thing you can do is read the articles, and skip the comments. During the campaign season, the best thing you can do is accept what the rulers foist upon you - to HELL! with the voters.
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posted on
02/13/2016 5:31:04 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Elsie
I’ve seen you trying to do your part:
Then he said to me, âProphesy to the breath; prophesy, son of man, and say to it, âThis is what the Sovereign Lord says: Come, breath, from the four winds and breathe into these slain, that they may live.ââ So I prophesied as he commanded me, and breath entered them; they came to life and stood up on their feetâa vast army.
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posted on
02/13/2016 5:31:40 AM PST
by
MarDav
To: Optimist
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posted on
02/13/2016 5:32:02 AM PST
by
CPT Clay
(Hillary: Julius and Ethal Rosenberg were electrocuted for selling classified info.)
To: tirednvirginia
Right on. This is exactly how I see it.
To: tirednvirginia
Pretty much. I had hopes for a Trump/Cruz ticket. But after the vitriol from Cruz’s supporters here, Trump can’t beat him bad enough. Kick him back to Canada. Confiscate his coat.
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posted on
02/13/2016 5:33:57 AM PST
by
McGruff
(if Making America Great Again is your thing Trump is your guy)
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