Posted on 02/09/2016 11:45:17 PM PST by TigerClaws
Trump and Cruz are poised to do well in the south. Trump can close it out on the east coast and a solid performance on the west coast.
The Uniparty does what from here?
They were backing RoboRubio big, but he had the debate malfunction. They tried to minimize the damage, but to no avail. Christie destroyed Rubio for this election round. He's done.
That leaves Kasich and Bush. Bush is spending $3,000 a vote and at 4% in Florida. Kasich is out of money and doesn't appeal to anyone in the south.
Cruz they hate, but he needs their money and his wife works for Goldman Sachs.
Which of these do they try:
1. Push Cruz knowing he'll likely lose the general election and might be co-opted?
2. Convince Bush, Rubio, and Kasich to get behind ONE of the three. Christie is done and he will be out. If ONE of them emerges as the only establishment guy, that's 40% of the vote and they might be able to stop Trump/Cruz.
3. Continue forward in denial as Trump and Cruz carve up the south in the new few weeks.
I'm expecting them to encourage Trump and Cruz to fight each other to bash each other down.
Then they tell one of the three left (Bush Kasich Rubio) that he will be the one to get money and tell the other two to step aside. They need Florida and Ohio so a VP slot might be offered as part of that deal.
Thoughts?
They already decided Trump is their boy. And since his campaign manager is close friends with Priebus, I think everything is set.
Sundance was right... This thing is coming down to Bush vs. Trump. Christie was tasked with removing Rubio. Kasich was never a concern. Cruz will lose to Trump in SC big. . Bush will stay until the end and a brokered convention will hand him the keys to the kingdom.
Enough with the Goldman Sachs nonsense. I served in the Army. Does that make me responsible for My Lai or the Trail of Tears?
You win a cookie.
The establishment are manipulating Cruz and several fake conservatives are backing Cruz from places like The National Review, Weekly Standard, Fox News and so on. They want Cruz to attack rabidly because they want to take out Trump at all stops.
Any of the Republicans can beat Bernie or Hillary. Things have not been set up this well for a true conservative to win in nearly four decades.
This is not the time to chicken out and settle for a wannabe conservative with northeast backing like Trump, Kasich, Christie, or Bush. We’ve fallen for “only moderates can win” far too many times.
Vote your conviction, vote for the conservative and have no Wednesday morning regrets come November. Cruz is the only true conservative in this race.
Perhaps there are some grown ups in Republican leadership who get it. They steal the nomination from Trump and they lose everything. It's not going to be like Mississippi where the (idiotic) voters still supported Cochran.
3. Continue forward in denial as Trump and Cruz carve up the south in the new few weeks.
That’ll be the plan to Florida. Marco and Jeb are greedy. Then it’ll be all over.
Most likely is the GOPe cuts a deal with Trump after Trump wins S.C. the deal will be on Trumps terms. Second likely path is the GOPe cuts a deal with Cruz after Cruz wins S.C. The deal will be on GOPe terms. Remote path one of Jeb/Rubio/Kasick does really well in S.C. and the GOPe rallies to a single candidate forcing Cruz and Trump to split the anti vote while GOPe candidate consolidates the establishment vote and thus wins in a brokered convention.
I will know more after S.C.
It does indeed look like that, and Carson will probably drop out soon or right after South Carolina, which might be his last hurrah.
Kasich will stick around a bit longer, like a hungry lost dog.
But he worked for his votes instead of trying to cheat, steal or misdirect voters, gotta give him the medal of honor for that.
Cruz is the only true conservative in this race.
It's very simple, very clear and very compelling.
It is almost criminal to throw away this one chance in a generation to elect an actual conservative in favor of a narcissist with no fundamental conservative principles apart from the opportunistic advancement of his own ego.
and yet the constant mantra even from long time conservatives (who have now been unmasked as just another clueless legion in the establishment chattering class) is that “Trump can’t win in the general election”
I thought old Phil Gramm was going to cry last night
“Trump can’t win in the general election - and I want to win! I have grandchildren!”
what a doddering fool he has become
A pox on all of them
I did that because something has to be done in response to endless assertions of inevitability for Trump and hopelessness for Cruz. But I believe that either one of these two men can beat either one of the two Democrats likely to head the ticket. The big danger, of course, is that the Democrats put somebody with charisma up such as Elizabeth Warren at the last minute.
Another danger is that Trump will commit some grotesque gaffe that costs him the election. If elected, Trump will not prove himself to be a stalwart conservative but a rank opportunist. We conservatives who blindly follow this narcissist will be crestfallen when the reality of serial betrayals sinks in.
I disagree that Cruz can win a general election, so we have to just stay our own courses and adjust our sails accordingly
I think the uncharming Senator Cruz has only gotten as far as he has because of Trump last summer bringing up the hard core conservative issues (and common sense issues that transcend party) and taking the flack for refusing to buckle to political correctness.
Who brought up the wall and deportation? Who brought up controlling immigration from hostile nations and ideologies? Who else shot down Hillary’s “war on women” meme by pointing out that her husband is a sexual predator?
I do agree that the democrat nominee is probably going to be someone we haven’t even seen running yet
I disagree that this necessarily means that he will be consistent to conservative principles over all if elected and I further disagree that Ted Cruz's fortunes were dependent on Trump's assault on political correctness. Finally, I disagree, for example, that Trump preceded Cruz on these issues such as building a wall which Cruz is on record for as far back as 2011.
Good assessment. Given your scenario, I’d guess it’s Kasich for the GOPe. That mewling socialist weenie could deliver Ohio. Jeb Bush offers money but that may not be enough, plus Trump would probably tell Bush to “take a hike.”
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