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The voter rebellion is on! Who should lead: Cruz or Trump? Both?
February 3, 2016 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 02/03/2016 1:57:45 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Q: Why are the voters rebelling?

A: The leftist progressives have been treading on our constitution and our liberty for at least the last 100 years and consequently we've suffered a long train of abuses and usurpations: The income tax (16th amendment), ending state sovereignty/concentrating power at the federal level (the 17th amendment), the Fed, heavy-handed/unconstitutional regulations, socialized retirement, socialized health care, restrictions on religious liberty, legalized abortion, federal mandated homosexual marriage with the heavy hand of the federal government enforcing it over the objections of the states and small business operators, the illegal alien invasion, the subversive Muslim invasion, the last 8 years of lawlessness under a Marxist/Islamofascist usurper, and a totally ineffective Republican opposition party that caves in or actually goes along with much of the above.

The tea party rebellion rose up several years ago to try to fight off the most recent Marxist assaults on our liberty and was quite effective at electing Republican majorities in the House and the Senate and in the majority of the states, but all to no avail.

The professional political elites entrenched within the Republican establishment co-opted our newly elected tea party representatives and or otherwise blunted their efforts and continued allowing the Marxist democrats to have their way over us. Even a rebellion against the Speaker of the House did no good. The new Speaker is as weak as the old Speaker.

And so the situation is ripe for rebellion. And we had a great Christian constitutional conservative tea party leader poised to lead it, Ted Cruz. And we were happy to jump on this young lion's bandwagon and push him through to triumph over the Marxist Democrats.

But the entrenched GOP establishment would have none of it and they (the GOPe and related Super PACS and their allies at FOX News and the cheap labor/open borders lobby) lined up behind the malleable open-borders Jeb Bush whom they could control and amassed a vast 100 million dollar plus warchest with promises of millions more to come. With the help of the "free" press, their anointed one was all but nominated. No way would a first term upstart and senate outcast like Ted Cruz overtake their anointed prince.

But then jumped in an older, long-maned alpha lion who's been around the block a couple times, roaring his way to the top of the hill. Trump's hard-nosed, no-nonsense, non-politically-correct, take no prisoners approach quickly grabbed the attention of the masses of fed-up voters. Trump single handedly slew the establishment's Prince Jeb, the media and the establishment itself and completely rewrote the rules of engagement.

His bold pronouncements that he would build a wall, enforce the law and deport them all was the exact right message at the exact right time and immediately vaulted him to front-runner status. And he added to that that he would end sanctuary cities, end anchor babies and even slap a moratorium on Muslim immigration. Again, exactly what the masses wanted to hear.

Now, many of us feel that these twin invasions (illegal aliens and Muslim infiltrators) were and are existential threats to our national sovereignty and were thrilled to have a mighty warrior like Trump who takes no guff from the media or the establishment to lead the charge.

The media, the establishment and even many so-called conservatives immediately objected with "you can't do that." It's unconstitutional and un-American. It's not who we are as Republicans.

That last one was especially telling. "It's not who we are as Republicans."

Ain't that the truth. And that's our entire problem in a nutshell.

Trump's huge rallies attracted thousands and thousands and his polling numbers soared for months. He was leading in most of the national polls and in most states.

But there was a growing counter-insurgency rumbling beneath the rebellion. Trump's history is strewn with contradictory and potentially fatal landmines. Too many of his past pronouncements and activities were on the NY liberal side and some are too much for Christian constitutional conservatives to bear or forgive. He swears that he's now a pro-life, pro-family Christian, but he has also stated that he's never asked for forgiveness. That's mighty hard for Christians to accept, but who are we to judge what's in a man's heart.

So here we are. The rebellion is roaring. The people are massing. Torches and pitchforks at the ready, but we are divided on who should lead it. And not just divided, we're scratching each others eyes out fighting about it. And as we do, the establishment's second choice (Gang of Eight traitor Rubio) is making inroads.

Personally, I'm all in for the Rebellion no matter who leads it. And I've often stated that Cruz is my favorite because of his constitutional conservative stance, but if Trump wins the nomination I'll enthusiastically support him in the general. Why? Because we cannot possibly allow yet another American-hating communist to follow Obama into the White House to complete the job of totally destroying our free Republic. End of that story. It's a no-brainer and my picture is in the dictionary under that term.

I absolutely love Trump's bold stand against illegal aliens and his call for a moratorium on Muslim immigration and believe it's even stronger than Cruz's past positions. I also love Trump's Reagan-like tax plan. Cruz's flat tax proposal is also interesting. I believe they both want to cut regulations, cut spending, cut government, return education to the states, etc, build a powerful military and fight against terrorism and make America great again.

Cruz is stronger on life and marriage and probably on choosing judges, but Trump says he's a pro-life, pro-family Christian but that's always a gamble anyway. Even Reagan and GWB blew a few judicial nominations.

The important thing here (IMHO) is that we save our nation. I'm not ready to rule out either of these candidates. Cruz is off to a great start and is up by one delegate over Trump and together they're double the GOPe's second choice. But it's a long hard grind ahead.

I say we should let the candidates fight it out and not be so eager to trash either one of our leading candidates. Digging up and publishing dirt and rumors on either is not doing our side any good and is potentially destructive in the long run.

And trashing our fellow FReepers is something that should never be done. This is going to be a long fight and we do not want to lose too many of our friends.

Meanwhile, let the rebellion gain strength. We're all in it together to save our nation. Please save your ammunition and your venom for the true enemy on the left.

Oh, I almost forgot. If you haven't already done so, please get your donation in. We're gonna need it to survive this fight.


TOPICS: Breaking News; FReeper Editorial; Free Republic; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; cruz; elections; freepathon; jimrob; neither; rebellion; trump; uniparty; voter; voterrebellion
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To: Truthsearcher

ROTF LMAO


121 posted on 02/03/2016 2:52:10 PM PST by DoughtyOne (the Free Republic Caucus: what FReepers are thinking, 100s or 1000s of them. It's up to you.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I started out for Cruz.

I switched to Trump when it became clear he, all by himself, had changed the entire nature of this year’s election. NO ONE ELSE could have done what he did, and is continuing to do.

When I switched to Trump, Cruz remained my second choice.

Neither of them are perfect and I can live with that.

BUT:

Our nation faces an existential threat unlike any we have ever faced before, and at least as dangerous. It may already be too late to save her. If there is to be ANY hope, it will require repentance and a return to our Christian roots.

That argues in favor of a devout candidate. On the surface that might argue in favor of Cruz. But Cruz’s personal ethics are under a huge cloud. Personally, I do not believe a candidate who hides shameless personal ethics (to put it mildly) behind the mantle of Jesus Christ is someone God would pick to lead us from the wilderness.

In my opinion, better the known sinner who may have seen the light than the quasi-secret sinner who denies his sin and hides behind false piety. Two thousand years ago men like that were called “Pharisees”.

There is another, equally powerful, issue involved. The United States is NOT a theocracy, and I hope it never will be.

There is not a single person alive today whose theology and life is perfect, nor will there be until Jesus Christ returns. Until that day, I will not submit to ANYONE who tells me what to believe, or claims to be a better Christian than I am. Nor will I automatically support someone simply because they claim to be a better Christian than their opponent. Only God can answer that question.


122 posted on 02/03/2016 2:52:54 PM PST by EternalHope (Something wicked this way comes. Be ready.)
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To: RGF

Ditto to dat!!
Trump to break the pathway and Cruz to clean out the pathway. Will the men be able to mend fences in order to get it done? That is the question...among a few other questions.


123 posted on 02/03/2016 2:53:13 PM PST by V K Lee (u TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP to TRIUMPH Follow the lead MAKE AMERICA GREAT)
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To: huldah1776
You go there, to really make a difference, and you’re run into brick wall after brick wall after brick wall. And I don’t think Rubio wants to stay there 30 years to break through the wall to get a committee chairmanship or whatever.

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None of these so called big govt conservatives want to leave govt and work in the private sector. Or if they do it's for lobbyist kind of positions. Govt job for me but not for thee.

How long are limited govt conservatives going to keep electing lifetime govt employees. Is not the ideal a business man conservative Republican coming to office working for a term or two in public service and leaving after? Cognitive dissonance.

124 posted on 02/03/2016 2:53:54 PM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Here is an excerpt of a question I recently asked on FR, that received no answers:

“FR is a very conservative site. Why are so many here in favor of voting for Trump first, before even giving Cruz, our staunchest conservative, a chance to succeed or fail on his own? I don’t get that.”

An earnest question looking for a thoughtful answer.


125 posted on 02/03/2016 2:54:42 PM PST by IAMNO1 (Vote Cruz. In case of emergency, break glass, place fingers on nose, squeeze gently, vote Trump.)
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To: Theophilus

i am not a fan of Trumps tweets. However, as soon as Trump leaves the scene, I hope he does not, Cruz and Rubio will go back to being the nice establishment guys they are. Yes, they will say things from time to time but they are bought and well paid for the be establishment, Club for Growth would not be giving there quarters of a million to Cruz unless they knew he would support amnesty.


126 posted on 02/03/2016 2:55:12 PM PST by georgiarat (Obama, providing incompetence since Day One!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m about ready to turn off talk radio because I know who I’m going to vote for, I know who I will never vote for, I’m afraid who the media will push the American people to vote for, and I’m afraid of eight years of Hillary Clinton in the White House. Bottom line, we have to pick a candidate who can attract enough votes to beat her. Unless all this doesn’t matter anyway if you believe that the system is rigged.


127 posted on 02/03/2016 2:56:07 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Jim Robinson

Excellent Commentary & Analysis!!!

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128 posted on 02/03/2016 2:57:31 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Trumpinator

How is it someone can claim to be lifetime conservative but always working for the govt?
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Excellent question.


129 posted on 02/03/2016 3:00:57 PM PST by Canedawg (Vote Trump)
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To: Jim Robinson

i’ll rally around Trump or Cruz whenn they BOTH stop the 4th grade crap against each other and go after Hillary and Sanders. Until then not interested.


130 posted on 02/03/2016 3:01:15 PM PST by teletech
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To: jacquej
Cruz to try to take down Trump, then turn on Cruz, who they actually hate more.

I think you are right, but you aren't filtering in the fact that Cruz has already BEAT the GOPe and elite media once in Texas, and he's using that experience on a national scale now.

They threw everything but the kitchen sink at him and swore that he could never beat Dewhurst........and yet it was Cruz who went to Washington....and his election led to a movement still determined to rid Texas of the rest of their Rinos

He's a scrapper, and has more American support behind him than the media will EVER tell you......so I wouldn't throw in the towel for him til the last vote drops.

131 posted on 02/03/2016 3:02:47 PM PST by TXSearcher (Longtime Lurker......now a newbie)
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To: Canedawg

I get no answers - at best I get a question to my question - a sign there are no answers.


132 posted on 02/03/2016 3:03:53 PM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: Jim Robinson
"The rebellion is roaring."

We Shall Over Comb!

133 posted on 02/03/2016 3:04:42 PM PST by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: Jim Robinson

We are both getting long in the tooth. I would like to have a conservative to vote for once before I move on. Anybody is better than Hillary Zedong or Bernie Stalin but it would sure be nice to vote for a conservative who plays to win once more.


134 posted on 02/03/2016 3:05:32 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Trumpinator

That’s because your question causes cognitive dissonance, loll.


135 posted on 02/03/2016 3:05:48 PM PST by Canedawg (Vote Trump)
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To: libbylu; DoughtyOne

LiberalLu, you got a lotta gall to post on a JR thread or even be on FR. I saw you over at ConsistentConservative and the things you said about Jim there before it was deleted or relocated. Jim is exercising an enormous amount of grace letting you people stay here.


136 posted on 02/03/2016 3:06:33 PM PST by gg188 (Ted Cruz, R - Goldman Sachs)
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To: teletech

Steel sharpens steel.


137 posted on 02/03/2016 3:06:50 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: gg188

“:^)


138 posted on 02/03/2016 3:08:27 PM PST by DoughtyOne (the Free Republic Caucus: what FReepers are thinking, 100s or 1000s of them. It's up to you.)
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To: fooman

distant? can you even see the 3? :)


139 posted on 02/03/2016 3:08:43 PM PST by dp0622 ( A)
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To: TexasCruzin
Sometimes the only person you can turn to that can pull a nation out of a disaster is flawed....

"Do not hesitate to raise up a flawed man if circumstances require it" .. Winston Churchill --

Churchill was called many things...stable was not one of them... he was that flawed man that was required.

We need a runaway bulldozer.. not a seasoned, reasonable politician.

Trump is the bulldozer who can win.

If I could choose the next president I'd choose Cruz... but he won't win if he's the nominee.


140 posted on 02/03/2016 3:12:22 PM PST by Bobalu (I told you so!)
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