Posted on 02/02/2016 11:18:23 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
I believe Trump furthers that end.
keep up the infighting
If you'd just agree with me, then we'd no reason to fight. :)
Agree. Gotta defeat the establishment, and stop the New Citizen movement, and then we can talk about the other conservative policies.
You are absolutely right, but it is the business now and how do you untangle the rats nest? Do you just cancel everyone’s policy and every man for himself no matter what?
Cruz needs to answer the question to make sure he is a Free Market purist just like he is a Constitutional purist.
nail on head.
If Rubio sneaks in because there are idiots and Trump and Cruz ignore the real threat then we will have more of the same for years to come and see our country changed beyond imagination . Learn to speak Spanish for one.
There are no more Goldwaters. No more Reagans. Gone.
There is something going on that’s unusual, more than the vicious fighting in here between Trump and Cruz supporters. We’ve been thinking in terms of liberal/leftist vs. conservative in this country for a long time now. What have conservatives done for us in the past 30 years? Anything? Some of us are sick and tired of pretending and things don’t stay the same. I’m older than dirt and don’t like change, but I can see the change and feel it in myself.
“Conservative” isn’t working; what will? Populist - Nationalist. It’s coming, and may be a better option for getting our freedoms back. I’ve known very well Trump isn’t a “real” conservative. I like what he “really” is, and it’s not what his detractors try to pin on him. Populism ... Nationalism .... something new has to come. Even at my age I will embrace it if it saves this country for my 14 blood descendants. (Well, going on 14, any day now, from my youngest granddaughter.)
You want a new party? Quit fighting it and you might get one. I’ve quit.
Marco Rubio uses Mitt Romney’s Iowa map in final days before caucus
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/marco-rubio-uses-mitt-romneys-iowa-map-in-final-days-before-caucus/
How about replacing Obamacare with nothing? When you get rid of a cancer, there’s no to replace it.
And not too bright. And emotion-driven, as opposed to being rational. You forgot those two.
I’d respect Trump more if he just told the truth and said he’s not all that into religion. But he won’t do that, because he’s just a lying politician.
This is exactly what Trump was talking about two speeches ago.
After Obamacare is eliminated how do you cover the people with cancer or heart troubles etc?
All this letter is is a bunch of lawyer speak. How is Cruz going to cover the uninsurable? You have no idea how bad Obamacare cratered the insurance industry.
I did like that post - a lot. I have the same definition, but I call it a scenario. And it’s the scenario we all really want, I thought. Then I saw that the poster after yours didn’t get it at all, or even try. Right back to “but ...but...” We’re likely to butt ourselves right off a cliff.
This was posted earlier today in another thread and very concisely sums up what Iowa produced politically.
Iowa was a three way tie. Cruz got 8 delegates, Trump 7 and Rubio got 7.
Cruz didn't win, and Trump nor Rubio lost. It was a tie. And I see this as very reflective of the current state of the GOP.
Trump pulled roughly 1/3 of the GOP with mostly anti-establishment voters.
Cruz pulled roughly 1/3 with conservatives
Rubio pulled the establishment voters.
I truly wish I could ‘agree’ with you but I just do not. To me, Cruz is a bitter little man, with a false smile and smooth tongue. Your side wants to lay claim that anyone who sees something in Trump is ‘fooled’ - I laugh at that bull****.
The man had 99% of ALL the media gunning for him and came in 2nd - figure that. People are angry and not in the mood for more of the same.
"If somebody has no money and they're lying in the middle of the street and they're dying, I'm going to take care of that person," Trump said. When chief anchor George Stephanopoulos pressed the billionaire businessman to describe how he would accomplish that, Trump said he would "work something out."You don't see the glaring inconsistencies here?
"We're going to work with our hospitals," he said. "We're going to work with our doctors. We’ve got to do something. You can't have a – a small percentage of our economy, because they’re down and out, have absolutely no protection so they end up dying from, you know, what you could have a simple procedure or even a pill. You can't do that."
"We'll work something out," Trump went on. "That doesn’t mean single payer."
And any move in that direction would necessitate trillions of dollars in new taxes over the coming decade, just when CBO warns the deficit and debt will begin to surge again.
Trump has raised his idea of health insurance coverage for all in the past, although he appears to be talking about a far more complicated approach than simply extending Medicare-style coverage to everyone. During an interview with CBS’s 60 Minutes last September, Trump said that Obamacare was "a disaster" – with excessive premiums and deductibles -- and that he would replace it with a program that would "take care of everybody."
"Everybody's got to be covered," he said. “This is an un-Republican thing for me to say because a lot of times they say, "No, no, the lower 25 percent that can’t afford private. But . . . I am going to take care of everybody. I don’t care if it costs me votes or not."
"And if this means I lose an election, that's fine, because, frankly, we have to take care of the people in our country. We can't let them die on the sidewalks of New York or the sidewalks of Iowa or anywhere else."
A recent Kaiser Family Foundation tracking poll found that 58 percent of Americans support enactment of a national health plan in which all Americans would get their insurance through an expanded form of Medicare, although Democrats are far more enamored of that approach than Republicans are. The downside of that approach, of course, is that Medicare spending is growing out of control, according to a new Congressional Budget Office analysis.
As for how to finance his ambitious proposals, Trump said, "The government's going to pay for it. But we're going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it’s going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything."
He is talking about pay shifting in hospitals. The way it worked before obamacare. How do you cover the millions of uninsured that will be having their policies canceled.
Now what is the Cruz plan? He is the one accusing Trump of being a communist.
It IS sad isn’t it?! They are part of the problem yet they believe their part of the solution. It’s mind bending and I tip my hat to the idiots who put this whole mess in place, they played all these children for fools.
The evangelicals were voting for Trump.
https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/694349671242821633
â€@AnnCoulter · Feb 1
CNN’s John King just explained that TRUMP is winning the most heavily Evangelical areas of the state! GO CHRISTIANS!
He was losing the Romney precincts to Rubio, which wasn’t expected.
Marco Rubio uses Mitt Romney’s Iowa map in final days before caucus
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/marco-rubio-uses-mitt-romneys-iowa-map-in-final-days-before-caucus/
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