Posted on 01/28/2016 10:11:03 PM PST by Nachum
Oregon protest leader Ammon Bundy and seven others were arrested Tuesday night. Protester LaVoy Finicum was killed in the confrontation with police and the FBI.
Unconfirmed Reports Suggest Militia Leader LaVoy Finicum Killed In Firefight With Police - http://breaking911.com/highways-closed-hospital-on-lockdown-near-scene-of-burns-ore-militia-standoff-after-reports-of-shots-fired/ â¦
On Wednesday Cliven Bundy, father of Ammon Bundy, told reporters his son told him the FBI murdered militia spokesman LaVoy Finicum with his hands up.
âLaVoy Finicum was murdered. Cold-blooded murder. They shot him with his hands up.â
(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...
Let's move along.
With all due respect Jeff, and I mean all the way back to your Bone Cancer, where my wife and I supported you, and IIRC, (at my age now 85), I feel you are supporting the FBI’s actions against this murder. Yes, I call it MURDER!
The reason I call it that is that it was a setup to ambush the Ranchers !!
Why else would they use a drone to film it, and BTW on your picture # 5 shows like in clear daylight when it was PITCH black and his car tried not to collide with the road block. Your explanation makes absolutely no sense !!!
Is that based on you been a former government employee and not willing to see it straight as it is, cold blooded murder. W H Y would they then need a drone filming an “ordinary” traffic stop. Give me a break ???
Since I have not followed this crisis a lot, is this land where Madam Benghazi/killary sole out Uranium to Putin??
Yes.
First, it was not pitch black.
The time on the video is Zulu time. We spoke of this at length here on the thread where pretty smart Freepers pointed out the issue. Zulu time is GMT, which is 8 hours ahead of Oregon. It was 4:30 PM in the afternoon, and I have corrected my own site accordingly.
Second, you insinuation that because I worked for the Federal government therefore I condone/support murder is pure D hogwashh and Bravo Sierra.
I have been on these boards for 19 years...I will let my record speak for itself.
I would be the first to call foul, irrespective of where I have worked. I have stood against the federal government before and would gladly do whatever I could now given my disabilities if called upon or needed..
Not only is your comment extremely insulting, it is slanderous. Again, I will call it pure Bravo Sierra...and I am not a man that is easily riled to such language.
I simply and honestly called it as I saw it.
Anyone can disagree for whatever reason. That does not make them my enemy...nor should my honest opinion of this make me theirs.
only news coverage i have been able to find of this, http://www.ksl.com/?sid=38333139&nid=148&title=body-found-inside-burning-kanab-shop&fm=home_page&s_cid=topstory
Neat trick, that.
We've been told that there's nothing to hear, here.
So move along.
See if anyone can access this, https://www.periscope.tv/freecapitalist
He interviewed Shawna Cox this evening and supposedly her statement matches that of Victoria Spark the other eye witness but I can’t get it to play
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See if anyone can access this,
https://www.periscope.tv/freecapitalist>
He interviewed Shawna Cox this evening and supposedly her statement matches that of Victoria Spark the other eye witness but I canât get it to play.
Unable to access it, either. ... Pinging everyone.
Thanks, azkathy.
This is so sad. Prayers for all.
There is much truth in what you say.
It was the higher-ups who set the stage.
Unfortunately, in our outrage over what has happened, we forget there is a lesson here--in how to stay alive to carry the banner in the future.
Stay calm, don't shout except as needed to be heard.
Be polite, not antagonistic or abusive. (These guys are pumped enough and there is 4.5 to 8 lbs (or less) of pressure between you and a casket.)
Make no threatening gestures or sudden moves.
Do your best to comply with instructions.
Calmly ask for clarification as to whose direction to follow if conflicting orders are given.
KNOW those guys are full of adrenaline and have their fingers on the trigger.
You can sort out whatever after the situation calms down, but YOU have to be the calming factor. YOU have to be the one to bring the officers off the adrenaline rush enough to be able to have any conversation.
Fail in that, and you just might get shot.
I was braced by LEOs in a tactical formation and recognized it immediately for what it was. I picked one officer who seemed to be in charge and calmly spoke with the officer and complied with instructions. I made no sudden movements, and we sorted out that I was not the hooligan they were looking for.
It did not hurt to have everything, from firearms to an unopened bottle of liquor in the vehicle perfectly legal.
Had I made a hostile move, had I been abusive toward the guys who were just doing their job, it would have been counterproductive, and perhaps fatal.
May Almighty God receive LaVoy and Bless and Comfort his family and friends.
Let's learn from this, people!
Absolutely. But the time to sort that part out is not when you are faced by a bunch of adrenaline charged guys who have been told they are going into combat by their superiors.
That is something which should be addressed while their guns are in their holsters and their mag wells are empty.
That they did not would give the impression they were being bushwhacked.
At the same time, I have no doubt the interception teams were told to expect a gunfight.
So, who set that stage?
Someone orchestrated this situation, right down to the order for drone surveillance, and those are the lap(s) the shooting should really land in.
Excerpt from interview “Today, Shawna Cox, who was also a passenger in Mr. Finicumâs truck provided a second eyewitness account of the events, including her efforts to try and help protect Ms. Sharp (and Ryan Bundy who was also a passenger) during âa hailstormâ of gunfire. Describing desperate pleas, screams, and constant prayer, Ms. Cox recounted her recollection of a barrage of âhundredsâ of rounds of ammunition being fired into the white pickup truck by law enforcement agents â before, during and after Mr. Finicumâs death. The interview (included below) took place after Ms. Cox contacted me via text message, and in a subsequent telephone interview relayed her personal account of the events, including what she witnessed, what she heard and her first-hand recollection of how events were set-up by a suspected government informant.
In this January 30, 2016 episode of Free Capitalist Radio, Ms. Cox also expresses some reservation in sharing these details noting that, based upon her observation, the FBI and OSP wanted all of passengers in the vehicle dead, and that while free on pretrial release â she is still in a very risky legal and personal situation. But, she explains, âthe truth must get out.â Her mission now, she says, is helping in the defense of all those arrested (including herself) and remaining dedicated to protecting the Constitution and continuing the fight to stop the abuses brought to light by the Malheur Refuge protest. In doing this, she says, she is also honoring the sacrifice made by LaVoy Finicum.”
FreeCapitalist.com is planning to do a composite video of the FBI ariel footage accompanied with these two eyewitness accounts, and a related story comparing the factual allegations to the video evidence. This should be published in the next few days.”
As posted on Facebook the statements made by Shawna in the interview linked above.
“Quotes from Shawna:
At the first stop “ Ryan Payne had both hands out the window and they shot at him”
“Bullets started flying”
“He (LaVoy) jumps out and they are shooting everything. We have lasers everywhere. The bullets don’t quit. They just keep going.”
“5-10 minutes after LaVoy was dead they were still shooting. They wanted us all dead. It was evident.”
“How many rounds?” “Hundreds, hundreds”
“It was evident they had every intention of killing us.”
“Do you still have that video?” “No, they took everything.”
“I’m almost positive he had a bullet proof vest on”
“Even after he was dead they shot him. It was a nightmare.”
“He did not have a gun in his hands. He had no weapons in his hands.”
“We were singing hymns and praying”
“Bullets were flying everywhere. They were coming from behind, that’s what saved us.”
On Mark:
“LaVoy is dead and he is talking about good thing his jeep is still there”
“He wasn’t there, he didn’t see it”
“He is telling lies. Why doesn’t Mark have to go to Portland? We are sure he set us up.”
Link works for me. Did you mean the list of vids/interviews? I didn’t click on those yet.
My first question was why was McConnell not arrested. That is still my first question.
It seems to be working better this morning. I put some of the quotes up since some people don’t watch video’s.
They are convinced he was a plant
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