[Jeff Head]

First, it was not pitch black.

The time on the video is Zulu time. We spoke of this at length here on the thread where pretty smart Freepers pointed out the issue. Zulu time is GMT, which is 8 hours ahead of Oregon. It was 4:30 PM in the afternoon, and I have corrected my own site accordingly.

Second, you insinuation that because I worked for the Federal government therefore I condone/support murder is pure D hogwashh and Bravo Sierra.

I have been on these boards for 19 years...I will let my record speak for itself.

I would be the first to call foul, irrespective of where I have worked. I have stood against the federal government before and would gladly do whatever I could now given my disabilities if called upon or needed..

Not only is your comment extremely insulting, it is slanderous. Again, I will call it pure Bravo Sierra...and I am not a man that is easily riled to such language.

I simply and honestly called it as I saw it.

Anyone can disagree for whatever reason. That does not make them my enemy...nor should my honest opinion of this make me theirs.

[kiryandil]

I have been on these boards for 19 years

Neat trick, that.

[UCANSEE2]

This particular shooting may have been ‘legal’.

However, the question is why does the government ‘own’ such large tracts of land and keep taking more (declaring large tracts as national monuments or other legal mumbo jumbo) which causes these conflicts with those who used to own the land or occupy large tracts near it ?

This instance is just one of many that keep occurring. Most, we never hear of. This one took a standoff to bring to the surface.

[danamco]

I had to wait a day or two, holding my breath, of replying to you. My first and initial comments, = (my posting) is/were based on the following, and I still will hold onto that it was COLD Blooded execution style alas Murder!!!

http://www.freecapitalist.com/2016/01/27/the-ambush-and-murder-of-robert-lavoy-finicum/

[danamco]

Let’s see, I have had a little time to analyzing this MURDER that hastily claimed was justified.

Since according to yourself it took place around midnight, I didn’t know they had “Midnight Sun” up there instead of Pitch Black. WHY did all cars involved had their headlights on?

I’m full aware of Zulu time or GMT as this was the time I was working out of in my 30+ year career all over the world.

I did NOT insinuated any D hogwash and Bravo Sierra against you. I realize now that one does NOT questioning a 19+ year of seniority at FR done by a “junior” with only 12+ year on F.R.

As I said before I’ve previous respected you very much, including donated money for your fight with bone cancer.

Your analysis that the killing was justified from how YOU saw it, seems very different as what is coming forward. The Oregonian even showed the reactions slowly LeVoy’ body reactions, who BTW was UNARMED accordingly.

https://www.facebook.com/CitizensForConstitutionalFreedom.NEWS/photos/a.1649978758609487.1073741830.1648792115394818/1656548494619180/?type=3&theater

https://youtu.be/aAGxDWKrjPQ?t=684

• Shawna Cox Testimony of the Death of LaVoy Finicum
‎2‎/‎1‎/‎2016‎ ‎12‎:‎21‎:‎41‎ ‎PM • 51 of 52
azkathy to danamco
Multiple witness statements are available now. The pickup was fired upon at the first stop and that is why LaVoy drove away.
On top of the murder of a man who tried to surrender peacefully since when is it OK for law enforcement to open fire on a vehicle with 3 people in it who have never showed aggression? That is not OK with me and the American people should be outraged. There is enhanced video out today that shows them shooting up the pickup with multiple rounds from all directions. It is only by the grace of God that these 3 people lived.
Shawna Cox was one of the victims of this aggression and excessive force. She was released from jail on 1-29-16, the same day her son-in-law died in an explosion. Pray for these Americans!
Statements of Shawna Cox below.
At the first stop “ Ryan Payne had both hands out the window and they shot at him”
“Bullets started flying”
“He (LaVoy) jumps out and they are shooting everything. We have lasers everywhere. The bullets don’t quit. They just keep going.”
“5-10 minutes after LaVoy was dead they were still shooting. They wanted us all dead. It was evident.”
“How many rounds?” “Hundreds, hundreds”
“It was evident they had every intention of killing us.”
“Do you still have that video?” “No, they took everything.”
“I’m almost positive he had a bullet proof vest on”
“Even after he was dead they shot him. It was a nightmare.”
“He did not have a gun in his hands. He had no weapons in his hands.”
“We were singing hymns and praying”
“Bullets were flying everywhere. They were coming from behind, that’s what saved us.”
On Mark:
“LaVoy is dead and he is talking about good thing his jeep is still there”
“He wasn’t there, he didn’t see it”
“He is telling lies. Why doesn’t Mark have to go to Portland? We are sure he set us up.”

HAVE A GREAT DAY !!!