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Republicans Have Overestimated the Conservatism of the Base
National Review ^

Posted on 01/16/2016 11:40:22 PM PST by TigerClaws

live in Donald Trump country. Maury County, Tenn. — like much of the South — was dominated by the Democratic party until just a few short years ago. Tennessee’s legislature didn’t flip red until 2008, and my own legislative district in my own “conservative” county was blue until 2010. Tennessee didn’t change dramatically between 2004 (when Democrats were in total control of state government) and 2011 (when control flipped to Republicans), but national politics changed. And — as Donald Trump is proving — they can change again. If there is a consistent refrain among former Democrats (and there are lots in the South), it echoes Ronald Reagan: They didn’t leave the Democratic party; the Democratic party left them. That means many things, but it does not mean that they’re small government, constitutional conservatives. It means that while they may have been attitudinally “Tea Party,” they were never on board with the core substance of the movement.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/429853/donald-trump-voters-conservatism

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RINOs want a Republican party without having to worry about the voters.

Interesting NR calls the GOPe the "constitutional Right" when they lack the constitution to be right. They have no guiding principles other than open borders, sell out America, and go a bit slower over the cliff than Democrats.

Also, have you noticed there aren't any articles on 'angry Democrats' even though Sanders is about to win a state or two?

No articles about how there's a disconnect between the party and the Democrat base. None.

Venture (and I warn you) over to Democratic Underground. 90% plus of the posters support Bernie. Bernie has gotten more individual contributors than Obama did last time out.

All the focus is on the Republicans.

BOTH political parties are facing open rebellion from their base.

1 posted on 01/16/2016 11:40:22 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

No the RNC has under estimated how angry the base is at “the party”


2 posted on 01/16/2016 11:46:15 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: TigerClaws

A bunch of geniuses over at National Review.


3 posted on 01/16/2016 11:46:36 PM PST by Washi (All lives matter, or none do.)
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To: TigerClaws

Yeah sure that is the ticket.

The Republican party is TOO conservative for the base.

Yeah sure that’s the ticket.


4 posted on 01/16/2016 11:47:02 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: Washi

National Review, like the others, has overestimated the GOPe of the base.

They keep the GOPe baloney coming, though. Just like BI and IBD.


5 posted on 01/16/2016 11:51:59 PM PST by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: TigerClaws
RINOs want a Republican party without having to worry about the voters.

Which is why Jeb! said he would grab the nomination without the base.

They don't even know who we are.

6 posted on 01/16/2016 11:52:49 PM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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To: TigerClaws
BOTH political parties are facing open rebellion from their base.

I'm sick of lying frauds who sell crap to the morons (us) and then set land speed records in putting cash filled envelopes in their inside coat pockets. We have a candidate that will execute the Republican party. I wish him Godspeed.

7 posted on 01/16/2016 11:53:26 PM PST by Stentor
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To: TigerClaws

Actually an interesting read and I agree that there is an ideological divide between “the base” and the establishment.

The Establishment tend to have a less patriotic and more globalist view. That means they love crony capitalism, foreign interventionism, and weak borders to allow more cheap labor into our country.

The Establishment then create political theories to express and actualize their above stated desires...

The base... Don’t give a rats ass about that. The base are America first patriots. The base wants their country back, the base wants their jobs back, and the base wants to be respected again.

This is a revolt, not an election. We’re mad as hell and tired of being lied to and sold out!


8 posted on 01/17/2016 12:06:11 AM PST by SteveSCH
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To: TigerClaws

....says lib socialist rag national review. Duh, ok....


9 posted on 01/17/2016 12:12:29 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: TigerClaws

The GOP ranks have swelled so much that the middle has moved leftward. The reason is the abandonment of the center by the Democratic party.

So yes, the conservative base has become diluted a bit.


10 posted on 01/17/2016 12:17:21 AM PST by Fhios (Change isn't always good. Just look at the Dinosuars.)
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To: SteveSCH

“The base... Don’t give a rats ass about that. The base are America first patriots. The base wants their country back, the base wants their jobs back, and the base wants to be respected again.

This is a revolt, not an election. We’re mad as hell and tired of being lied to and sold out!”

Bravo, bravo, well said.


11 posted on 01/17/2016 12:45:45 AM PST by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS)
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To: TigerClaws

Yep. And the National Review is part of the GOPe. At least is used to be, I haven’t ventured over to their website in about 10 years. I assume they are only worse now.


12 posted on 01/17/2016 1:05:08 AM PST by patq
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To: Nifster
Governor Haley's SOTU response was probably the most pathetic political stunt I've seen in years. SOTU responses are typically critical of the sitting president and the message he just delivered. Haley used the occasion instead to trash the GOP frontrunner.

But Nikki Haley reminded me, in some ways, of Angela Merkel: a lonely political figure growing more isolated from her own party and country.

You have to give GOP establishment credit for one thing: they've managed to create a brand that's hated by both left and right and appeals to no one, except Jed Bush fans.
13 posted on 01/17/2016 1:53:22 AM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: flaglady47

I read the thread headline and just shook my head. The GOPe hasn’t even taken the time to find out why we here in drive-by America are so mad at them.

They call us haters, hard-hearted and stubbornly clinging to the Rule of Law. We don’t feel, we don’t care like they do and we are just to frigging stupid to know what is good for us like they do.

Damned right it’s a revolt. And come November next year maybe we can call THEM something - unemployed.


14 posted on 01/17/2016 2:14:35 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: TigerClaws

TN had a Republican super majority and did nothing with it to make TN conservative friendly. Pretty sure TN will be the home of the second Islamic caliphate in the US.


15 posted on 01/17/2016 2:33:54 AM PST by greatvikingone
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

And they hVe managed to get the factions to fight amongst themselves instead of stomping the establishmemt


16 posted on 01/17/2016 3:08:03 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: TigerClaws

I never stopped being a conservative.

The GOP has ceased to be a conservative party.

If it had acted like one, it wouldn’t be worrying about Trump today.


17 posted on 01/17/2016 4:07:29 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Nifster

Since I live in Tennessee, we work hard to get rid of the RINOS that infest the Legislature, Governorship and our 2 US Senators. All RINOS.

Even with RINOS we have cut the sales tax, loosen the strangling gun laws. With a Legislature that is only partly Conservative.

We have 2 pockets of total Dem controlled cities. Memphis and Nashville. Memphis is the most corrupt and highest in crime in the state. Bad schools, financial trouble. Just dumped their black mayor for a white one, same party though. Will be interesting to see who the new Chief of Police is. It’s always been black as has the School Supper. But they gave up their school charter, thinking they’d take over the entire of Shelby Co schools, the small towns in the County, fought back and won the right to run and elect their own schools and boards.

We are an Income Tax free state, sales tax is the revenue source and we finished with a surplus this year.


18 posted on 01/17/2016 5:56:41 AM PST by GailA (any politician that won't keep his word to Veterans/Military won't keep them to You!)
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To: TigerClaws

Another dumb article. The key issues, immigration and bad trade deals, do not fit neatly into the conservative and non-conservative cubbyholes. Until these geniuses factor that into their “analysis”, they will continue to look and sound like idiots.

That’s been Captain Obvious since the day Trump announced.


19 posted on 01/17/2016 6:33:19 AM PST by Will88
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To: GailA

With Lamsr and Nob riding around in Mitch’s back pocket you are stuck in the same hell that Kentuckians are.

You may have locally conservative government but the sell outs in DC continue to make life hard for everyone


20 posted on 01/17/2016 8:28:00 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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