Since when do we consider Laurence Tribe a credible source to trust?
Posted on 01/16/2016 7:59:19 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
Thursday following FBN's broadcast of the Republican presidential debate, Harvard constitutional law professor Laurence Tribe attacked Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 97%, one of the participants in last night debate, for his stated on reasoning for his eligibility to run for president of the United States.
According to Tribe, Cruz applies a double standard to his interpretation of the Constitution, to which he deemed Cruz to be a "constitutional opportunist" and a "hypocrite."
"I've done a lot of historical research on it, and so have a lot of other people, and the best evidence seems to be that what they meant in 1788 was something more than just citizen from birth," he said. "They actually meant a citizen whose birth was sort of natural, not in a biological sense but in the sense of connection to the land. The idea was, that it was something that Congress couldn't change, unlike the naturalization process, which Congress has monkeyed around with all the time. I mean, for example, in 1934, the first time it said, you can be a citizen who doesn't need to get naturalized as long as your mom was an American citizen. And that's ultimately the basis on which Cruz has to rely.
The funny thing is, that the kind of guy Cruz is, he's always been this way. When he was my student he was this way. He's always said the Constitution always means the same thing that it meant when it was adopted. That's why he made this funny joke to Trump, you know, saying, the Constitution didn't change since last September. Well, he thinks it didn't change since 1788 when it comes to gays and, you know, women and other things. But when it comes to his own ambition, he's suddenly becomes what he accuses me of being, and it's a pretty true accusation, a judicial activist. That's not the guy he is normally."
"He's being a constitutional opportunist, a hypocrite," Tribe continued. "It's sad, because he makes light of it, but it is a genuine open question, and there's no way of getting around it. Like if he's the nominee, it won the be hard to imagine some secretary of state somewhere simply refusing to put him on the ballot on the ground that that secretary of state is also an originalist and thinks, if you weren't born on the land of the United States, then you just can't run. At that point, somebody would have to sue them, whether it's Ted Cruz himself as the nominee, if that's what we've got, or the Republican National Committee. There's no way to avoid an issue like that going to the Supreme Court. And the irony is, the liberals on the court, assuming they all voted according to principle, as opposed to politics. It isn't always that way, the liberals on the court, the activists would go with Cruz, and the originalists if they were true to their position like Scalia, would vote against him."
You may want to look up the definition of "precisely", because you are way off.
Still laughing. Nobody has lied. Only you Trumpies are saying that. Where is a US attorney? The DOJ? NYPD? Grow up.
Oh just say it....Teddy IS a LIAR and a FRAUD!
I just wish Cruz would stop being disingenuous when he says that those born overseas of an American mother are automatically citizens. He knows ( or should know ) that that isn’t the case. It depends on the mothers age and her residency status in the US prior to the birth. By continually saying it the way he is ( and he should cite the law as it stood at the time of his birth ), he gives the impression that Obama would be an automatic citizen also if he were born overseas - which isn’t the case. [ Note : I am not commenting on natural born vs. citizen, just the inheritance of basic citizenship ]
Well I’ll bite my tongue on Hillary and what she might deserve under some sane concept of law.
But anyhow I think her sins were considerably worse than paperwork omissions which could really BE plausibly chalked up to inadvertent error. Cruz fixed the paperwork didn’t he? Not making excuses? Inadvertent error did not drive a lot of the things Hillary said it drove.
Why on earth do you figure Cruz would run if he had ANY doubt about his eligibility? I don’t get it.
LOL....yeah, suuuuuuuuuuuuuuure. *snicker*
It depends on what “is” is. Let’s ask Bill Clinton about that today.
Bathhouse barry calls himself a professor too, and Bill Ayers, Mark Rudd, Bernadine Dohrn, Ericka Huggins, Eleanor Raskin, I don’t put any stock in what they say either
“We need a Gordian knot cutter here or we chase our own tails.”
I agree with you earlier in that the knot cutter is GOD ALMIGHTY!
“Why do the nations rage and the peoples plot in vain?”—Psalm 2
“The political costume party contest rules here are: come as you choose to come, but be ready to defend what you came as!”
Exactly!
It isn’t just any leftist professor...it’s Cruz’s professor who knows very well Cruz’s pre-presidential aspiration beliefs about the constitution.
I’m talking about how “brilliant” Teddy is supposed to be. For someone SO “brilliant” and “learned”, he sure makes a LOT of pathetic and stupid missteps and mistakes. He also lies.
POSSIBLY, ego. That he could somehow, like they say in British courts is not allowed, “Suck and blow in the same breath.” No, don’t compare him to Trump here, you asked a question in HIS case. But he did turn down a lower position in the Bush administration and then treated that like he had simply been snubbed.
He could ease up on the Constitution but that’s probably going to lose him some arch conservative support. But he needs to make some move or it will be forced on him. More likely (IMHO) he will not reconsider on that, and the shadow will keep him behind Trump who doesn’t have an issue like this.
Interesting, thanks.
Since when do we consider Laurence Tribe a credible source to trust?
Because he’s a VERY ambitious man, who believes that he can and should get away with anything he says or does; that’s why.
Yes, but what is the citation to an actual case? Vaguely speaking “references” that are is not of much assistance in examining the question at issue.
Why on earth do you figure Cruz would run if he had ANY doubt about his eligibility? I don’t get it.
He is fully aware of the requirements and knows he is lacking, but figures he can bullshit his way thru.
Cruz has demonstrated that he is not worthy of our trust, or the Presidency...
but using Cruz’s opinion. Obama would be a natural born citizen even if he were born in Kenya based on his mom was a US citizen. ( i think Ted’s dad was an naturalized american so it is not quite the same but it is interesting ) — i’m not bashing Cruz
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