Posted on 01/15/2016 4:56:56 PM PST by TBBT
The exchange between Ted Cruz and Donald Trump on âNY valuesâ was one of the highlights of last nightâs debate.
While Cruz clearly was referring to liberalism, he used a phrase that left him open to Trumpâs counterattack invoking 9/11:
he media is thrilled with Trumpâs response. Of course, much of that media is in or from NY City. I expressed last night that I wasnât sure that the issue would play in Trumpâs favor outside NY.
I was born in NYC, spent my early childhood there, grew up in and returned to the NYC suburbs after law school until moving to Rhode Island in 1993. And since 2008 have lived (originally part time now full time) in Ithaca.
I understand what Cruz was referring to. And it has nothing to do with knocking the heroism of NY police and firemen, or how New Yorkers reacted under attack. It has everything to do with political, economic and social outlooks which are not accepted in the Republican Party in general much less among conservatives.
The Cruz campaign apparently thinks this is a fight it needs to have, via Washington Examiner:
(Excerpt) Read more at legalinsurrection.com ...
Carrie Bradshaw=bad NY values.
Archie Bunker=good NY values.
You’re a moron.
“All” Trump did was play the equivalent of the Race Card. Cruz laid out EXACTLY what New York Values are. Trump knew he couldn’t win the argument on substance because of the Russert interview. So what did Trump do? He basically said, you’re not attacking me because I’m a liberal in disguise, you’re attacking me because I’m a New Yorker.
It was the Race Card...Republican Style and it was planned by Trump. So if you buy this crap Trump is selling, the next time you get po’ed at a lib trying to say people disagree with them because of their color, you have nothing to stand on since you encourage this garbage.
Nothing Cruz said had ANYTHING to do about 9/11 or the NYPD or the FD. And you either know that or you’re a liberal troll who’s hidden in the shadows. There is no middle ground on this.
I guess we’ll never be able to talk about the Washington Cartel anymore because Trump will bring up the Pentagon attack. And we probably won’t be able to talk about Hollywood’s war on America because Trump will bring up the San Benadino attacks.
But for lofo voters like you, I guess that crap works.
“We shall see.”
And I DEFINITELY agree with that remark! The polls in the coming week will tell the tale about who here correctly predicted what. And it’ll be fun to find out! (If only to see who owns up to being wrong and who tries to slink away.)
They elected Hillary and Schumer as their Senators! If the vote is looked at New York City did this, not up state New York, just New York City.
yep. Trumps leftwing history has been dismissed by trumpsters and now the other voters will see who trump is...a leftwing conman
“And I DEFINITELY agree with that remark! The polls in the coming week will tell the tale about who here correctly predicted what. And itâll be fun to find out! (If only to see who owns up to being wrong and who tries to slink away.)”
You are the one who predicted anything. I predicted nothing. ;-)
No knock on Trump, but Cruz is probably in the top 5% of legal scholars in this country so he probably knows whether he is qualified to be President.
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If Cruz is the top 5% of legal scholars, it seems odd to me that he did not “discover” that he was a Canadian citizen until 2013.
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/headlines/20131228-ted-cruz-says-hes-hired-lawyers-to-renounce-canadian-citizenship.ece
We are to believe that Ted Cruz, brilliant legal mind, has been wandering around providing his Canadian birth certificate as proof of identity, for his whole life and yet it never flickered in his mind that he was a Canadian? He said he learned he was a dual citizen in “The Dallas Morning News”
Who believes that?
New York City to me politically is Hillary Clinton, Bella Abzug, Anthony Wiener, Madeline not so Bright, Bloomberg and Trump. All politicians from that part of the State are progressives, liberals, socialists, communists or budding tyrants. Someone tell me the last pol from that place who was conservative, smaller government, strict Constitutionalist...any?
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He’s not a politician but don’t forget, Antonin Scalia. Damn New York liberals!
What? NYC has some bad neighborhoods, I didn't know that.;-)
Or for that matter, just take a stroll through Central Park at night.
Cruz is now running against New York City Values, not Donald Trump.
Which do Republican Primary Voters support:
New York City Values or Consistent Conservatism?
“FR used to be conservative and people trolling for liberals were zotted. Therefore it makes sense that a lot of people would be here supporting the only conservative.”
That sounds reasonable until you make the pronouncement that Cruz is “the only conservative.”
I’ve heard dozens of Trump speeches and haven’t heard one word of his mouth that isn’t conservative.
And I don’t mean going back to 1999 to pull some quote.
Over here ping.
No it's not...
he crushed DT instantly on the birther thing and he will win this fight too. You see, NY values are what they are, and they are liberal, and they are politically correct, and they are not shared by the country. The response to 9-11 was not a NY value, it was a rare occaision when NYers shared American values.
You will be humiliated long term on this, guaranteed........truth is what it is....
he’s not trying to un ring it ......he’s ringing it more and more and more, and the more he rings it, the more people understand that NY values are Schumer, DeBlasio, Bloomberg, Clinton, Kerry, Gore, Peter King, pro abort, pro gay marriage and pro the entireLGBT agenda, pro political correctness.....
Bring it on.....you think you won the first round (and maybe you did) - but you will NOT win the long battle, because NY values ARE WHAT THEY ARE and they are liberal, statist, elitist, period.
do you think Scalia likes NY values?
do you think Cruz likes Harvard values?
Why are you so insecure as to admit that some places have lousy overall values, even as there are a few good people in them?
WATCH ROOSTER SLOW ROAST HIMSELF TO DEATH PING!!!
wow Rooster, you stepped in it here. Which is the part of America's heart do you like about NY? Voting for Obama 93%? Senator Schumer? Senator Clinton? Partial birth abortion? Banning guns? No salt or big sodas in restaurants? corrupt unions in and out of government? Supporting TARP? Supporting Stimulus? Supporting the auto bail outs? Supporting Obama Care? The Soprano mindset? (right across the river)...hating the south? I mean come on big yankee, tell us what part of NY is America's heart????
The sting of Trumps devastating response to Trump lingers because it caused Cruz to suffer perhaps the most embarrassing moment of any debate.
Cruz walked into it like a fool. I am amazed that he chose the NY Values tactic to neutralize Trump. It was lame foolish and easily defended.
Trump again demonstrated why he appears as a man among children with his powerful retort that left Cruz no option but to look at Donald, smile and APPLAUD!
CRUZ GOT SCHLONGED!
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