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Donald Trump Targets Ted Cruz [and it's helping Cruz]
Wall Street Journal ^ | January 10, 2016 | Heather Haddon and Janet Hook

Posted on 01/10/2016 2:15:21 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Donald Trump is taking aim at Republican presidential rival Sen. Ted Cruz, a tactical shift that could be risky on two fronts: It may have come too late, and the Texas senator might actually be benefiting from the attacks......

For Mr. Cruz, being under attack by other Republicans is a badge of honor, another backer said. "It's a quasi-endorsement of Cruz to the grass roots," said Saul Anuzis, former Michigan GOP chairman.

Polls show a growing number of Trump backers see Mr. Cruz as their second choice. Cruz spokesman Rick Tyler said that when the campaign began, polls showed that only 4% of Trump backers saw his boss as their second choice. A new poll by NBC/SurveyMonkey finds that number has risen to 39%.

The latest Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll found that 66% of Trump voters said they would consider supporting Mr. Cruz -- far more than other major candidates....

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


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To: Yosemitest
And yet again by citing a law as the basis you fail to comprehend the simple truth that Congress can't pass a law which makes someone a natural born citizen.

It's IMPOSSIBLE for Congress to do such a thing. It's natural law. Congress can't make natural law, they can only recognize it, like with your right to keep and bear arms or your right to free speech. NATURAL LAW! Congress didn't pass a law granting you those things, did they?

Congress can ONLY pass laws on citizenship which governs FOREIGNERS AND ALIENS.

And you can apologize any time for calling me a liar!

341 posted on 01/18/2016 3:31:11 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
You ARE WRONG !
It has been proven TIME AND TIME AGAIN Under
Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution!

IT CLEARLY STATES:

342 posted on 01/18/2016 4:02:57 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: philman_36
Read this: SO NOW, YOU OWE ME AN APOLOGY !
343 posted on 01/18/2016 5:09:01 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest
You ARE WRONG !

NO, I'm NOT.

Your right to keep and bear arms is a natural right!
Your freedom of speech is a natural right!
Congress doesn't, and can't, give natural rights as it isn't in their power to do so.

Nor can Congress pass a law to make someone a natural born citizen through legislation.

Lysander Spooner, Natural Law; or the Science of Justice: A Treatise on Natural Law, Natural Justice, Natural Rights, Natural Liberty, and Natural Society; showing that all Legislation whatsoever is an Absurdity, a Usurpation, and a Crime.

But if justice be a natural principle, then it is necessarily an immutable one; and can no more be changed-by any power inferior to that which established it-than can the law of gravitation, the laws of light, the principles of mathematics, or any other natural law or principle whatever; and all attempts or assumptions, on the part of any man or body of men-whether calling themselves governments, or by any other name-to set up their own commands, wills, pleasure, or discretion, in the place of justice, as a rule of conduct for any human being, are as much an absurdity, an usurpation, and a tyranny, as would be their attempts to set up their own commands, wills, pleasure, or discretion in the place of any and all the physical, mental, and moral laws of the universe.

Congress can't do what they aren't empowered to do.
Congress can naturalize someone through positive law, but they can NEVER usurp natural law and MAKE someone a natural born citizen.

If there be any such principle as justice, it is, of necessity, a natural principle; and, as such, it is a matter of science, to be learned and applied like any other science. And to talk of either adding to, or taking from, it, by legislation, is just as false, absurd, and ridiculous as it would be to talk of adding to, or taking from, mathematics, chemistry, or any other science, by legislation.

Thus our corresponding ends.

344 posted on 01/18/2016 4:52:52 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: Cboldt
Opinions of Attorney General Bates on Citizenship Published 1862
Page 8... We have natural born citizens (Constitution article 2, 5) not made by law or otherwise, but born. And this class is the large majority; in fact the mass of our citizens; for all others are exceptions specially provided for by law.

Snip...

The Constitution itself does not make the citizens, (it is, in fact made by them.) It only intends and recognizes such of them as are natural - home born - and provides for the naturalization of such of them as were alien - foreign born - making the latter as far as nature, will allow like the former.
345 posted on 01/18/2016 5:26:38 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: WhiskeyX

See 345.


346 posted on 01/18/2016 5:31:09 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

I wonder if McCain has a CRBA?


347 posted on 01/18/2016 5:48:50 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
See this...
Birth of U.S. Citizens Abroad

Persons who acquired U.S. citizenship or U.S. nationality at birth in one of the following current or former territories or outlying possessions of the United States during relevant time periods are not eligible for a Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a U.S. Citizen because such persons are not considered to have been born abroad. Individuals born in these locations during the relevant times may establish acquisition of U.S. citizenship or non-citizen nationality, based upon the applicable agreement or statute, by producing their birth certificate issued from the local Vital Records Office along with any other evidence required to establish acquisition:
The Panama Canal Zone applicable agreement or statute before October 1, 1979

You know what "applicable agreement or statute" means...naturalization, not natural law.

348 posted on 01/18/2016 7:02:30 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

Yes, it’s just another example showing that citizen-at-birth is not the same as NBC.


349 posted on 01/18/2016 7:45:27 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: philman_36
READ IT AGAIN, KNOT-HEAD ! SO NOW, YOU OWE ME AN APOLOGY !
350 posted on 01/18/2016 9:45:49 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest
SO NOW, YOU OWE ME AN APOLOGY !

I don't owe you ANYTHING.

Congress can only pass naturalization laws and naturalization only applies to aliens/foreigners.

Citizens don't need naturalization laws. Their children might, but not the citizen them self.

For your consideration...
18 U.S. Code § 1015 - Naturalization, citizenship or alien registry

(a) Whoever knowingly makes any false statement under oath, in any case, proceeding, or matter relating to, or under, or by virtue of any law of the United States relating to naturalization, citizenship, or registry of aliens; or
(b) Whoever knowingly, with intent to avoid any duty or liability imposed or required by law, denies that he has been naturalized or admitted to be a citizen, after having been so naturalized or admitted; or
(c) Whoever uses or attempts to use any certificate of arrival, declaration of intention, certificate of naturalization, certificate of citizenship or other documentary evidence of naturalization or of citizenship, or any duplicate or copy thereof, knowing the same to have been procured by fraud or false evidence or without required appearance or hearing of the applicant in court or otherwise unlawfully obtained; or

You really need to get a clue!

351 posted on 01/19/2016 4:41:46 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: Yosemitest
Oh, BTW...usconstitution.net is hardly a source worth using for legal understanding.

Do you have something from a .gov site?

Like this...

The United States has a long history of welcoming immigrants from all parts of the world. The United States values the contributions of immigrants who continue to enrich this country and preserve its legacy as a land of freedom and opportunity. USCIS is proud of its role in maintaining our country's tradition as a nation of immigrants and will administer immigration and naturalization benefits with integrity.

Sounds like they are there for foreigners/aliens to me.
How about you? Or will you contend they are there for citizens?

352 posted on 01/19/2016 5:03:25 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: Yosemitest
Here is another good link...Immigration and Nationality ActThe Immigration and Nationality Act, or INA, was created in 1952. Before the INA, a variety of statutes governed immigration law but were not organized in one location. The McCarran-Walter bill of 1952, Public Law No. 82-414, collected and codified many existing provisions and reorganized the structure of immigration law. The Act has been amended many times over the years, but is still the basic body of immigration law.

The INA is divided into titles, chapters, and sections. Although it stands alone as a body of law, the Act is also contained in the United States Code (U.S.C.). The code is a collection of all the laws of the United States. It is arranged in fifty subject titles by general alphabetic order. Title 8 of the U.S. Code is but one of the fifty titles and deals with "Aliens and Nationality". When browsing the INA or other statutes you will often see reference to the U.S. Code citation. For example, Section 208 of the INA deals with asylum, and is also contained in 8 U.S.C. 1158. Although it is correct to refer to a specific section by either its INA citation or its U.S. code, the INA citation is more commonly used.

Sure sounds like it's all about foreigners/aliens to me!!!

Oh, LOOK!!! Your often cited favorite is there...

INA: ACT 301 - NATIONALS AND CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES AT BIRTH
Sec. 301. [8 U.S.C. 1401]

An immigration law confers natural born citizen status on somebody?

353 posted on 01/19/2016 5:19:56 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
YOU are the CLUELESS ONE !

READ IT AGAIN, KNOT-HEAD !
354 posted on 01/20/2016 7:28:37 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: philman_36
Hey DUMMY, you commented on MY comment with quotes FROM THAT U.S. CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION SERVICES ( GOVERNMENT) SITE !
355 posted on 01/20/2016 7:32:03 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest
Hey DUMMY, you commented on MY comment with quotes FROM THAT U.S. CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION SERVICES ( GOVERNMENT) SITE !

You've lost your damn mind!

You don't even know where your links go to. Not one single link in that reply of yours goes to U.S. CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION SERVICES

350
Your first 8 links go to http://www.usconstitution.net

Your next 4 links goes to http://www4.law.cornell.edu.
1 to FR
2 more to http://www4.law.cornell.edu.
Then you're back to http://www.usconstitution.net.

There is not one single link from you in reply 350 that goes to http://www.uscis.gov.


And you're STILL posting immigration law as if such laws could make someone a natural born citizen.
I don't have to make you look the fool, you're doing the job fine all on your own with your ignorance.
356 posted on 01/20/2016 8:19:20 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
Hey DUMMY, As comment #340 stated: Then I researched U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 8 and at the bottom of that page is Which took me to that link.
That takes you to

357 posted on 01/20/2016 10:00:08 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest
Hey DUMMY, As comment #340 stated...

Hey. ignoramus...I wasn't responding to reply 340!!!

Not one single link in that reply of yours goes to U.S. CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION SERVICES

350
Your first 8 links go to http://www.usconstitution.net

Not so good on details?
And as much as you repost the same BS laws over and over and over and over and over again...you cannot escape THE FACT that

THE LAWS YOU'RE USING TO SUPPORT YOUR ASSERTION ARE
IMMIGRATION LAWS
The minute you use them as your defense you're admitting the person needing them is an immigrant.

Yes, you're THAT stupid.

358 posted on 01/20/2016 7:31:09 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: Yosemitest
And my how you've changed...
43...A "Natural Born Citizen" won't hold up when the father wasn't a U.S. Citizen.

Cruz's father wasn't a U.S. Citizen, was he? Why the change on your part?

Shall I find some more of your hypocrisy and remind you where you stood not that long ago?

And remember, the exact same immigration laws you used to say that Obama wasn't qualified are the same laws you're now using to say that Cruz is qualified.

359 posted on 01/20/2016 7:55:28 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
They cover BOTH Citizenship and Immigration, DUMMY !
You have NO UNDERSTANDING of the word"NATURALIZATION", its history, and FROM WHERE it was derived !
You have no comprehension of the laws defining it.
What is the root word of "Naturalization" ? Not only could the Founding Father define "natural born citizen", BUT ... THE FOUNDING FATHERS DID DEFINE IT !
And you ARE refusing the definition of "natural born citizen" CLEARLY DEFINED by our FOUNDING FATHERS !


It was defined for the United States, BY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS !

The Naturalization Act of 1790, let's read it !

360 posted on 01/21/2016 2:10:36 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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