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Donald Trump Ramps Up Attacks on Ted Cruz’s Eligibility
NY Times ^ | 1/9/16 | Trip Gabriel and Matt Flegenheimer

Posted on 01/09/2016 8:42:14 PM PST by randita

OTTUMWA, Iowa — Donald J. Trump sharply escalated his rhetoric about Senator Ted Cruz’s eligibility to be president on Saturday, suggesting that because he was born in Canada there were unanswered questions about whether he met the constitutional requirement to be a “natural-born citizen.’’

“You can’t have a person who’s running for office, even though Ted is very glib and he goes out and says ‘Well, I’m a natural-born citizen,’ but the point is you’re not,” Mr. Trump said while campaigning in Clear Lake, Iowa.

Mr. Cruz was born in Calgary, Canada, to an American mother, which automatically conferred American citizenship. Most legal experts agree that satisfies the requirement to be a “natural-born citizen,’’ a term that was not defined by the founders.

Mr. Trump, who began raising questions about Mr. Cruz’s ability to be president earlier in the week, said on Saturday that Mr. Cruz would have to go to court to get a “declaratory judgment” about his eligibility “or you have a candidate who just cannot run.’’ (Mr. Cruz could need a judgment if someone filed a lawsuit to challenge his candidacy and a court agreed to take up the question.)

With polls showing the race in Iowa tightening, and Mr. Cruz leading Mr. Trump by 4 percentage points in a Fox News poll released on Friday, Mr. Trump has returned to an issue that first gained him notoriety years ago when he challenged President Obama’s citizenship.

On Saturday night, before the final stop on a six-day bus tour of Iowa, Mr. Cruz said: “Under longstanding federal law, the child of a U.S. citizen born abroad is a natural-born citizen.”

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Canada; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa; US: New York; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; calgary; canada; cruz; election2016; iowa; naturalborncitizen; newyork; primary; tedcruz; texas; trump
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To: bushpilot2

Other constitutional authorities disagree with you.


241 posted on 01/10/2016 4:28:48 PM PST by pookie18 (10 months until the general election...)
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To: randita
I don't like this tactic Trump is using against Cruz AT ALL.

In September Trump said he had no "concerns" (as in "troll") , about Cruz's elgibility. Cruz begins to challenge him for the lead in Iowa polls and now he's "oh so concerned" .

But have to agree that probably the dems will attack Cruz over this big nothingburger.

They (dems) attack-It's what they do. Cruz is a top flight lawyer. He will be able to handle any legal BS they throw at him.

I hope everyone knows they (dems) will be coming after Trump with whatever they can find, distort , or outright lie about, too.

So I guess, instead of supporting a rock solid conservative who is well versed in the Constitution- We need to be fearful, and focus on what attacks the democrats are likely to launch against a candidate, make our choice based on that. So we should vote for whoever the dems like best- Riiight...

242 posted on 01/10/2016 4:30:58 PM PST by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Dod- it today.)
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To: shankbear

any accuser has to feeling far more than thinking on this one.

who in there right mind running for a POTUS candidacy would try to GET OVER on eligibility?

someone this were “foolish”


243 posted on 01/10/2016 4:31:12 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><> GO CRUZ!!!!)
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To: Pajamajan

HUGE DITTOS to your post!!!!!!!!!!


244 posted on 01/10/2016 4:32:40 PM PST by pollywog ( " O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: Mollypitcher1
One must research:  photo image_zps9vlsbgrz.jpeg
245 posted on 01/10/2016 4:33:38 PM PST by bushpilot2
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To: randita

Deport Cruz and Bieber.


246 posted on 01/10/2016 4:34:41 PM PST by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: Mollypitcher1

What and Donald Trump is George Washington? LOL!


247 posted on 01/10/2016 4:34:46 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine
Washington and many more
248 posted on 01/10/2016 4:40:26 PM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: Mollypitcher1

I’d take all this a lot more seriously if it weren’t such a transparent effort to discredit the man who will give us the best chance we have to restore the rule of law in this nation.

Sorry, but please don’t ask me to replace a narcissistic egomaniacal self-absorbed power-mad statist with another narcissistic egomaniacal self-absorbed power-mad statist and try to sell this to me as some sort of change. It’s not. It’s more of the same. It’s the “new boss same as the old boss”.

We Americans don’t need a boss. We need a faithful servant.


249 posted on 01/10/2016 4:40:50 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine
Is Ted Cruz an original inhabitant?  photo image_zpsn0g9f4ok.jpeg
250 posted on 01/10/2016 4:41:36 PM PST by bushpilot2
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To: John Valentine
Ted Cruz proof of birth abroad citizenship is a Canadian birth certificate.  photo image_zpsjk1o5pub.jpeg
251 posted on 01/10/2016 4:47:41 PM PST by bushpilot2
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To: mquinn

????????? what on earth has Free Republic become!!!!!!!!!!!!!


252 posted on 01/10/2016 4:55:46 PM PST by pollywog ( " O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: pookie18

If SCOTUS won’t take it then a lower court’s ruling would stand - whatever that would be. That’s how the process works. Why are people upset if Trump wants a legal answer to an issue about which there is obviously divided opinion in the voting public?

If Trump sued Cruz and Cruz’s (partial) defense was that Obama as a foreign-born POTUS set a precedent, then at least Kagan should recuse herself if it ever came before POTUS, because she was the Solicitor General when Obama eligibility suits were first brought forward. She didn’t recuse herself in the past when she should have, but I think Trump could make a stink that could make her awfully uncomfortable if she didn’t recuse herself.

And I think he would do that because it would fit his claim that the voting public needs a decision that’s not corrupt and doesn’t leave the public with the same questions they started out with.

Cruz, too, would want Kagan to recuse herself because she is a political hack who would easily sell the country and Constitution short for the sake of her political cronies.

And if, by the time the case is heard, Trump was leading he might want Cruz legally cleared to be his VP. Or if Cruz is leading, Trump may want him cleared so Trump could be his VP (probably not, though) or (more likely) they could keep Jeb or another RINO from winning.

Both guys, though, would be more likely to consider doing this if they knew that their supporters are adult and patriotic enough to realize the need for a legally-binding answer as the system is supposed to work. Does any of us really want Congress deciding who can be POTUS? They’d put known Syrian illegal refugees who’ve sworn allegiance to ISIS in the White House. (And if you don’t believe that just consider what they’ve enabled Obama to do). The Constitution gives the JUDICIARY the job of interpreting the Constitution and deciding cases both as to fact and to interpretation. Congress, by contrast, is given the job of counting the votes and checking to make sure that the electoral votes are properly certified. They are given the right to determine eligibility of their own members but never given either the right or the responsibility to interpret or rule on Constitutional issues such as Presidential eligibility.

Part of the whole point of both Cruz and Trump is that the people within the system are so corrupt that America isn’t really even America any more.

Yes, the courts suck. And I believe they may have been threatened also, with Obama’s suits. But I think Trump knows what happened, and so far the things he’s done have preempted the same old war plans that our enemies have used. He’s dodging their traps because he knows their game plan. Same thing with Cruz. Now if their supporters will recognize what’s going on and refuse to swallow our enemies’ bait, those 2 can get this done, together.


253 posted on 01/10/2016 4:56:07 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Don’t have a big problem giving a benefit of the doubt.....

All along I had some thoughts that these two had something cooking behind the scenes.

The pudding’s proof will be if Cruz takes Iowa and if so if Trump keeps up the nasty inferential yapping.

Yet still that “simplest answer” thingy keeps peeping over the edge like some mischievous gremlin.


254 posted on 01/10/2016 4:57:41 PM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: John Valentine

Faithful SERVANT= TED CRUZ...


255 posted on 01/10/2016 4:58:45 PM PST by pollywog ( " O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: WhiskeyX

I really liked that post.


256 posted on 01/10/2016 5:02:16 PM PST by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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To: topfile

Some of us were saying years ago that the democrat plan could be to wait until we’ve got a candidate and then use the courts to disqualify him somehow, making their candidate a shoe-in.

The more I think about this, the more I think Trump needs to realize that the way to stop that from happening if it looks like Cruz could be the R nominee is by making sure it is settled during the PRIMARY. That’s what Trump is saying. I don’t think Cruz can get a declaration from a judge; it has to be a decision, and that can only happen if there’s been an actual case. And the only way for there to be a case during the PRIMARY (before it’s too late to make sure there is an eligible candidate against Hillary) is if he files a lawsuit.

Things are being set up for this to happen, I think. And if all the R’s would realize the importance of getting it ironed out during the PRIMARY, they would be thanking Trump for this. Because a really good chance for having a POTUS who will buck the corrupt status quo in DC would be out the door and Hillary would be a shoe-in if this isn’t dealt with during the PRIMARY.

Please, people, think it through. We know the issue isn’t going to just go away even if Trump drops this, because Grayson says he will file suit if Cruz is the nominee. Cruz supporters (and I am one) need to realize that if this isn’t dealt with at the PRIMARY level, Hillary could be handed the White House by the black robes. NONE of us wants that.

Except maybe the bottom feeders in Congress who don’t want an interruption to the status quo...

Do the people at FR really want to side with the GOPe? If so, why?


257 posted on 01/10/2016 5:07:29 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: pookie18

So let’s get a legal ruling.

Right? Isn’t that how it’s supposed to work?


258 posted on 01/10/2016 5:08:53 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

If you have standing, do it!


259 posted on 01/10/2016 5:11:30 PM PST by pookie18 (10 months until the general election...)
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To: John Valentine

How would you propose to make sure that the dems don’t bribe a judge to disqualify Cruz when Grayson files suit - when it’s too late for the R’s to have any other candidate?

You and I both want change. Is Hillary the change you’re looking for? Because if this isn’t dealt with during the PRIMARY, dem bribery could make her a shoe-in. How would you stop that?


260 posted on 01/10/2016 5:13:01 PM PST by butterdezillion
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