Posted on 01/07/2016 4:15:25 PM PST by Maceman
I'm cool with you removing me from your friends list if you don't like this post. You can even disown me if you like. But Donald Trump isn't a good person, nor would he be a good president. I can understand a difference in politics. I can understand if you don't like a government run by Democrats. I can understand if you don't like certain ideologies, like Socialism. But I can't understand why you would support someone as hateful, sexist, racist and ignorant as Donald Trump.
How do you support him so blindly? Ask yourself, are you a racist, sexist, hateful and ignorant person as well? I hear his supporters saying they like him because he tells the truth, because he's so rich he can say whatever he feels like with no apologies. Just because Trump is saying these things doesn't suddenly make them right. It's not okay to discriminate against an entire religion based on a small percentage of its followers who have become terrorists by twisting the words of their religion to fit their crazy ideals. It's not okay to marginalize an entire race of people, saying things like all the Mexicans are lazy, and they are all stealing our jobs and bringing drugs into our country.
White people also have bad apples. So does every race of people. We're all human. Some humans are really bad people. Some are really good. And it doesn't matter what color they are, it makes no difference whatsoever. Trump says he is just telling the truth. But whose truth? There are lazy people in every race and there are dangerous violent people in every race and every religion. Kicking all Muslims out of the country is not the answer, nor is it the acceptable behavior of a person in an extremely powerful position, like the President of the United States.
The Japanese Internment camps were wrong, Segregation was wrong, Slavery was wrong. We fought wars amongst ourselves to rise above racism and hatred. In WWII more than 60 million people died worldwide. Why? Because of twisted people who were whipping up the population into a frenzy and making ridiculous statements, killing innocent people simply because of their race or religion. The United States lost more than 400,000 lives fighting in that war, against the same ideas that Trump is pushing. The idea that certain religions are more dangerous than others and the idea that people should be judged based on the color of their skin rather than the content of their character.
We're still healing from the damage inflicted by the Civil War, WWI, WWII, Vietnam, Iraq and the War on Terror. And it isn't just ISIS or Al-Qaeda. It's our own people in this country killing their fellow countrymen over differences of opinion, like whether or not you believe abortion is okay or what kind of political ideology you support. And then there are just the plainly insane people who finally snap and go on shooting rampages for no discernible reason at all. They just went mad.
The kind of leadership Trump is displaying is irresponsible and dangerous. His virulent ideas are seeping into the brains of his supporters. Supporters who think it's okay to say things like "light the mother@!$%#er on fire" while a protester is being dragged out of one of his rallies. Maybe the protester was wrong to be where he was at the time, but no matter what he did, there was no reason to set him on fire. In fact, there is NEVER a reason to set anyone on fire. Unless it’s because they are dead and they wish to be cremated.
Trump's supporters are angry, and anger is infectious. I can tell you as a non-supporter of Trump I am just as angry. We need the kind of leader that seeks to bring us together, not tear us apart. Why do we have to fight against helping each other, against common sense, against a united Nation? The American Dream is a nightmare and we are feeding it, making it worse every day. Trump is a bully, a loud mouth, ignorant, sexist, racist, disgusting example of how horrible humans can potentially be.
He is the crazy person at your dinner table who won’t stop running his mouth. The only reason he is allowed to carry on with his ugly hateful rhetoric is because you have too much respect for Grandma to get into a fist fight in her home. He’s the guy you have to endure until he leaves, all the while hating every minute that you have to occupy the same space. Lucky for us, this isn’t Grandma’s house, so feel free to punch him in the mouth in the form of getting out and making your vote count.
They always say it’s so important to make your voice heard, to get out and vote. But I’m not sure if it’s ever been more important than now. Differences of political ideals are one thing, I can agree to disagree on many matters across a wide array of topics, but racism isn't one of them, neither is hate, neither is the belittling of women or the judgment of others based on their appearance or their disability, or their sexual preference.
By supporting Trump do you think things will go back to the way they were? Back when gay people had to hide in fear, back when people of any other color than white had to worry about getting lynched, back when it was okay to openly hate? Do you think empowered women will suddenly quit their jobs and go back to the kitchen ? Because electing Trump won't make any of that come true. We're past that as a nation, or at least I thought we were.
If you're not a racist, bigoted, misogynistic jerk then voting for Trump simply because you don't like Democrats is wrong. If you are one of his supporters and you're just a racist and you don't care who knows it then vote for him, but know that the good people of America will not stand for it and he will never win a fair election. And please consider pursuing an education and work on your empathy toward your fellow human beings. Whatever led you to believe that racism is okay can be unlearned if you open your mind. I'm sorry that you were raised to believe that you deserve better treatment than the rest of the people on the planet that have different views than yours, worship different gods than you and have skin that isn't white.
To all the people, of all the races and religions that Donald Trump stands against, to all the women that don't meet his standards of beauty, to all the good Muslims, and Christians, Mormons and Catholics and Jewish, Italians, Irish and Asians, to the African-Americans and Native Americans, to anyone who has ever been persecuted, belittled, made to feel inferior or bullied based on ignorance like the kind that Trump is spewing, please, I implore you to get out and vote against him. Don't let the progress of this great nation be halted. We've come too far.
In this country we FIGHT and DIE for freedom, for Truth and Justice. We fight for what's right. And what Trump is doing and saying isn't right. Abraham Lincoln said:
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and cause me to tremble for safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic destroyed."
And he couldn't be more right. Trump IS the one percent, he IS working on your prejudices, and he WILL destroy the Republic if he is elected, make no doubt about it.
If you don’t believe me, just look at the level of crazy coming out of his own mouth:
"[I am] calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on" - Donald Trump That's religious discrimination.
"An ‘extremely credible source’ has called my office and told me that Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a fraud" -Donald Trump That’s an outright lie.
"Ariana Huffington is unattractive, both inside and out. I fully understand why her former husband left her for a man – he made a good decision.â€- Donald Trump This is sexism, and just plain rude.
"You know, it really doesn’t matter what the media write as long as you've got a young, and beautiful, piece of @!$%#." - Donald Trump This is misogyny at its finest.
“I will build a great wall –and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me – and I'll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will make Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words." - Donald Trump The words of an arrogant hate monger.
"When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending the best. They're not sending you, they're sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They’re rapists… And some, I assume, are good people." -Donald Trump Racist.
"Our great African-American President hasn't exactly had a positive impact on the thugs who are so happily and openly destroying Baltimore." - Donald Trump Racist.
"If I were running ‘The View’, I'd fire Rosie O'Donnell. I mean, I'd look at her right in that fat, ugly face of hers, I'd say ‘Rosie, you’re fired." - Donald Trump The words of an @!$%#.
"The beauty of me is that I'm very rich." - Donald Trump So Vain.
"It's freezing and snowing in New York – we need global warming!" - Donald Trump Ignorant.
"My fingers are long and beautiful, as, it has been well documented, are various other parts of my body." - Donald Trump Gross.
"I think the only difference between me and the other candidates is that I'm more honest and my women are beautiful." - Donald Trump Sexist. As if women are possessions rather than people. And also a lie. A lie about how honest he is.
How can you support this man?
I’m cool...
Thats as far as I got.
It’s mook ... but the line is good
Good point since the Big Guy himself has voiced quite a bit of support for Trump.
Why are you putting words in my mouth and mischaracterizing me? I’ll gladly vote for him as my second favorite after Cruz, I merely voiced my misgivings. If he wins the election then obviously my fears were unfounded. If he loses I’ll wonder along with you I suspect wheather he was just another in a long line of Republicans purposely throwing the election in favor of the Dem candidate.
| ...[Trump's] rallies are terrible! He stands up there and rambles for over an hour and offers not specific details on his plans. Not everyone appreciates Trump's speeches. I understand that. As a Trump supporter who has watched several of his speeches on-line, let me take a crack at explaining why I still watch them. It's like a sports team. Once you follow a team for a while, be it the Boston Red Sox, the Dallas Cowboys -- whoever it is, you get hooked. However before you reach the point of committing to a team, you weigh the quality of what's there. And if it's a president you're choosing, you first look at the usual stuff: the policies he or she supports, the organization around the campaign, the debates, and other political factors. Now with Trump, I think there's an indefinable leadership he radiates that people want to be near. They want to have an experience with him, because he's become a colleague, almost family now. And we also love the "spirit in the room" -- being with other Americans and showing our pride in the man and our country. Trump does that for us. So when we watch him on-line or attend a rally, his fans almost know 60% of what he's going to say! And his detailed positions are not that important because we can always read his book, Crippled America, or go to his website to read all that. So as a Trump supporter, I look at the whole package: his success in life, his strength of character, his refusal to back down, his utter confidence in himself, his love of his country, the videos I've seen, the hotels and golf courses he's built, even the maturity of his children. All of that is in my head -- or rather, all of that is in my heart. So no matter what he may say at any particular rally, the important thing is my love for the man and what I feel he can do to heal my beloved country. |
Thanks, my FRiend.
"To walk with Kings and not lose the common touch."
Rudyard Kipling, If.
Thank you, a wonderful testimony.
People are forever putting words into the mouths of Franklin, Lincoln, Emerson, and Churchill.
I always refer to Wikiquotes and they will often show frequently misquoted phrases.
Trump may or may not be a good person. I think he has put himself in a postion to try to save our country. Nothing more than others have done and still do. And I’ve heard worse from presidents (mostly criminals in a suit) , lawmakers (criminals) and news readers (liars)..
My comments on the various statements in the article which has no annotations. My one documented annotation rebuts the lincoln crap.
How could someone make such statements and not quote any speech. I’d like to see the version where he documents the statements. So I will employ the negative of Fallacy of composition – assuming that something true of part of a whole must also be true of the whole.[34] where one point is false all is false. Ha ha
following are the excerpts from the peice and my comments with links to wiki fallacies which I would love to be able to recite from memory.
it’s not okay to marginalize an entire race of people, saying things like all the Mexicans are lazy, and they are all stealing our jobs and bringing drugs into our country. >> no quote from a speech which are all on youtube. Maybe Argument from repetition (argumentum ad infinitum) – signifies that it has been discussed extensively until nobody cares to discuss it anymore;[17][18] sometimes confused with proof by assertion Proof by assertion – a proposition is repeatedly restated regardless of contradiction; sometimes confused with argument from repetition a.k.a. argumentum ad infinitum
Kicking all Muslims out of the country is not the answer, nor is it the acceptable behavior of a person in an extremely powerful position, like the President of the United States. >>> (shifting the) Burden of proof (see – onus probandi) – I need not prove my claim, you must prove it is false misquoted, muslim is a government ideology clothed in a religion that want to take over the world a death cult.
against the same ideas that Trump is pushing. The idea that certain religions are more dangerous than others and the idea that people should be judged based on the color of their skin rather than the content of their character. >>>> Argumentum ad lapidem (Latin: “to the stone”) is a logical fallacy Muslim is not a religion. It is a governmental system. He never judges anyon by their color. Only the death cult they believe. Nice red herring changing the “some religions are more dangerous than skin color†wow Red herring – a speaker attempts to distract an audience by deviating from the topic at hand by introducing a separate argument the speaker believes is easier to speak to.[50]
And then there are just the plainly insane people who finally snap and go on shooting rampages for no discernible reason at all. They just went mad. >>>> Begging the question (petitio principii) – providing what is essentially the conclusion of the argument as a premise.[22][23][24][25] public policy is not dictated by what a few insane people do.
“light the mother@!$%#er on fire” while a protester is being dragged out of one of his rallies. >>> no quote from a rally on this. I’ve listened to a lot mostly to not heard second hand what he says.
Grandma to get into a fist fight in her home. >>> Grandma got run over by a reindeer this year
If you’re not a racist, bigoted, misogynistic jerk then voting for Trump simply because you don’t like Democrats is wrong. If you are one of his supporters and you’re just a racist and you don’t care who knows it then vote for him, >> fallacy of false choice.
“[I am] calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on” - Donald Trump That’s religious discrimination. >>>> it’s saying let’s get a handle on what’s going on. Rational human beings do this everyday.
“I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and cause me to tremble for safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic destroyed.” >>>> no letter no speech no public record. At the time of lincoln corporations were specific government entities chartered for specific purposes like highly capitalized events. Railroads, canals, etc. Generalized incorporation laws were foisted on us by FDR in 1933. debunked on npr.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=125169095
“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending the best. They’re not sending you, they’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists… And some, I assume, are good people.” -Donald Trump Racist. >>>> Trump the truth teller. Nothing wrong with this at all
Here is a last fallcy
Shotgun argumentation – the arguer offers such a large number of arguments for a position that the opponent can’t possibly respond to all of them. (See “Argument by verbosity” and “Gish Gallop”, above.)
That is a leftist's opinion regarding ALL conservative people. So, it would be safe to say, "Donald fits it with the rest of us".
And then it will be 1761st time Trump campaign will be doomed /S
You give points in favor of Trump.
But let me ask you something. Don’t take it the wrong way, but why do you trust Donald Trump?
I don’t question your judgement. I ask because I do have my moments where I can hear Trump or read about him and start to think he may be just what this country needs....but then I go back and look at him and his political past, and I go “I can’t trust him.”
To make my point, these are the things that bother me about him:
1) His leaving the Republican party and changing to Democrat. Leaving the Republicans and becoming independent because the part leadership sucks is one thing, but changing to Democrat in post 9/11 America?
2) His past associations with the Clintons. He contributed to Hillarys’ Senate campaigns. They have been guests at his parties. They were guests at his wedding. He is on record praising Bill Clinton as President. If elected, will he be the real Clinton II?
3) He has in the past has favored gay marriage.
4) He is on record as being pro choice.
5) Based on items 3 and 4, what kind of Supreme Court justice would he appoint?
6) His ego. It’s reknown. How can I know this whole thing isn’t just a sham to fuel his ego?
Just curious how one can past such questions and doubts? I admit, I have my moments when I want to jump on the bandwagon. But I always go back to those questions.
All that being said, I don’t believe anyone running as Republican can win a national election these days. To win a Republican candidate needs to do exactly what the 2004 map was just to barely win. Since then Virginia, Colorado, Nevada and Florida have become rock solid blue states. Hillary’s character does not matter. Everyone know she is corrupt. But a majority of voters are Democrats on the issues now. They will vote for the Democrat over any Republican,
Trump, if he is the nominee, very well may draw in a few Democrats who can’t get past Hillary being a crook. But he also will have to deal with 20% of Republicans who say the will either not vote or go Libertarian if Trump is nominated. That’s what will sink him. I just don’t see a path to victory for Trump.
Cruz, while I think he would lose as well, may have a slight outside shot. If he can draw in some evangelical voters in Virgina that passed on voting in 2008 and 2012 he could slightly make VA red one last time. Then if he could get a big Cuban voter turnout it could help tip Florida. Then if he could maybe win back some conservative voters in NV, CO and OH that sat out 2008 and 2012 maybe those states. It’s a reach, but slightly possible.
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Sorry, no, he didn’t do it to anyone else.
That’s just who he is.
An honorable man would have nothing to do with Pelousey.
Blah, blah, blah. . .
‘Damn the politicians. Full speed ahead!’
“Ask yourself, are you a racist, sexist, hateful and ignorant person as well?”
Nix writes that like It’s A Bad Thing...
Bump to that!!!
To the author: no one is perfect. Why didn’t you write the long Facebook post of vitriol over Barack Obama? He was unabashedly Black and Muslim uber alles while he was campaigning and has stayed so even while Presidenting. He is racist as well, always doing back bends to defend Muslims and/or blacks.
Re sexism: Donald Trump makes comments about beautiful women, and some off color remarks about himself, not in context of his campaign, but over his lifetime. Please. Did you write a similar soliloquy about Bull Clinton? You can’t get more womanizing and worse than Bill Clinton. And Hillary trashed Bill’s rape victims. She called them all nuts and sluts. She treated rape victims with abject cruelty.
If everything you say about Donald Trump is true, which it isn’t, why don’t you feel the need to address your friends who supported Democrat candidates with huge moral failings? Hm? Why do they always get free passes to be rude, crude, racist, and criminal?
Good post. One other thing I admire about Trump - his dad made him work and work he did, fixing toilets and housing repairs on the weekends. He worked while his friends partied. Not like Choom Gang _resident. He got his hand dirty like everyone else. He has a very strong work ethic.
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