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George Will: Beating Hillary Less Important Than Stopping Trump
Brietbart's Big Government ^
| December 24, 2015
| Ben Shapiro
Posted on 12/24/2015 12:29:47 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
As the end of the year approaches, Donald Trump is solidly ensconced at the top of the Republican polls nationally. The man just behind him? Senator Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) , an establishment bugaboo. The establishmentâs favorite candidate, Senator Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) , is currently running far behind in national polling, a distant third in Iowa, and in a deadlock with Cruz and New Jersey Governor Chris Christie for second in New Hampshire.
Panic time.
So, hereâs the establishment roundup for Christmas week.
If You Support Donald Trump, You Want to Lose. Earlier this week, Bret Stephens of The Wall Street Journal unleashed a petulant column accusing all Trump and Cruz backers of begging for defeat. âLet us now pledge to elect Hillary Clinton as the 45th president of the United States,â he snarked. âLetâs do this because itâs what we want. Maybe secretly, maybe unconsciously, but desperately. We want fourâand probably eightâmore years of cable-news neuralgia. We want to drive ourselves to work as Mark Levin or Laura Ingraham scratch our ideological itches until they bleed a little. We want the refinerâs fire that is our righteous indignation at a country we claim no longer to recognizeâruled by impostors and overrun by foreigners.â Stephens specifically singled out Cruz for criticism, calling him a flip-flopper âhappy to be on any side of an issue so long as he can paint himself as a âreal Republican.ââ(continued)
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To: Fai Mao
I lost my respect for him about 1980 when he wrote one of his typically pretentious editorials opposing Al Kahn’s deregulation of the airlines. I think the bowtie constricts the blood flow to his brain.
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posted on
12/24/2015 3:17:47 PM PST
by
achilles2000
("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
To: 2ndDivisionVet
I don’t like Trump, but I’ll gladly pull the lever for him to keep Hillary out of the Oval Orifice.
82
posted on
12/24/2015 4:17:47 PM PST
by
driftless2
(For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
To: achilles2000
You give him too much benefit of the doubt. He is not stupid, but he has sold his soul long ago, to keep his media title. George Will serves those who now own him.
83
posted on
12/24/2015 5:16:27 PM PST
by
MHGinTN
(Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
To: grania
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posted on
12/24/2015 5:22:30 PM PST
by
Georgia Girl 2
(The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
George Will is a DemocRAT who got SO OFFENDED by the DemocRATS, that he couldn't tolerate being associated with all those "CRAZIES" .
Now for a deeper understanding of just WHO George Will IS:
The word "neocons" is ONLY used by LIBERALS, trying to insult Conservatives.
The is no such thing as a "NEW" Conservative.
Conservatives ARE Conservative, plain and simple.
But read this"Liberals, Conservatives, and Neocons - - - Learn the Difference!
March 12, 2014
Almost everybody is confused about the word "neoconservative" and its shortened form, "neocon."
I find that liberals/Democrats seem to use it as a sort of disrespectful form of "conservative,"and probably have no idea the the words have distinct meanings.
On the other hand, I know of some conservatives who define it as "new conservatives,"meaning people who were formerly something else, but have converted to conservatism.
Both are wrong.
As near as I can tell, "neo-" doesn't apply to any other word that way -formerly not X, but having become X.
No, "neo-" almost always refers to an ideology that is different from the root word in a significant way.Neoconfederates are not people who want to secede and become a separate country.
They want the ideals of the Confederacy to be applied to modern politics, more or less, but not all of them.
Neoliberal is a more vague term,but it specifically applies to people who may have SOME of the attributes of liberals,
but who contradict liberalism in their advocacy of free trade and privatization
and other ideas usually thought of as conservative.
And, finally, neoconservatives are mostly those moderate cold war LIBERALS who defected to the Republican party when the Democrats got totally flaky with McGovern and his ilk.
Their ultimate origin, however, is not the Democratic party but the Trotskyite movement.
Jack Kerwick elaborates.
Read this: Most "Conservatives" Are Secretly Neoconservatives
12 March, 2014, by Jack Kerwick, Ph.D.
A colleague of mine has drawn my attention to a Washington Post blog post - "Why Most Conservatives Are Secretly Liberals" - by a Professor John Sides, a political scientist at Georgetown University.
Sides agrees with fellow political scientists Christopher Ellis and James Stimson, co-authors of Ideology in America.
Ellis and Stimson CONTEND thatAmerica is, at bottom, a "center-left nation,"
for while "30 percent" of self-described "liberals" are consistent in endorsing "liberal" policy prescriptions,
the same sort of consistency can be ascribed to only "15 percent" of "conservatives."
And another "30 percent" of "conservatives" actually advance "liberal" positions.
In short, Americans may TALK the talk of "conservatism," but they WALK the walk of "liberalism."
That is, they favor Big Government.
Sides, Ellis, and Stimson, it seems clear to me, are "liberals."
It doesn't require much reading between the lines to discern this.
That they associate "liberals," and "liberals" ALONE, with such virtues as "consistency" and such lofty ideals as "a cleaner environment" and "a stronger safety net" is enough to bear this out.
Yet in peddling the ridiculous, patently absurd notion that"conservatives" see the media as PROMOTING "conservatism,"
the verdict regarding their "liberalism" is seen for the NO-BRAINER that it is.
There is, though, another CLUE that unveils Sides', Ellis', and Stimson's ideological PREJUDICES:They equate the term "liberalism" with a robust affirmation of Big Government.
They treat "liberalism" synonymously with its modern, "Welfare-Statist" incarnation.
There is no mention here of the fact that, originally, "liberalism" referred toa vision that attached supreme value to individual liberty,
a vision in which government played, and had to play, a minimal role in the lives of its citizens.
And there is no mention of the fact that, if "liberalism" is now "an ugly word,"
it is because the very same socialists who made "socialism" an ugly word hijacked "liberalism" when it enjoyed a favorable reception
and visited upon it the same fate that they secured for "socialism."
In other words, if Sides himself wanted to be bluntly honest, heâd have to admit that "liberals" are secretly socialists.
Still, though their premises are bogus, Sides and his colleagues draw the correct conclusion thatmost "conservatives" are NOTHING OF THE KIND.
The truth of the matter is thatthe vast majority of contemporary "conservatives"; are neoconservatives.
Now, "neoconservatism" is a term that hasn't the best reputation.
It has ALWAYS BEEN CONTROVERSIAL,
and most of its proponents have DISAVOWED IT to the point of, preposterously, condemning it as an "anti-Semitic" SLUR.
But George W. Bush and his party inflicted potentially irrevocable damage upon the label.
"Conservatism" is a more marketable label.
Nevertheless, the reality is that neoconservatism is indeed a distinct school of political thought.
Beyond this, it is fundamentally different in kind from classical conservatism.
Irving Kristol, the so-called "Godfather" of neoconservatism, an appellation that he readily endorsed, ADMITS this in noting boththat neoconservatism exists
and that "conservative" "can be misleading" when used to describe it.
Neoconservatism, you see, is THE INVENTION OF LEFTISTS like Kristol himself.
When the Democratic Party began veering too far to the Left in the 1960s, Kristol and more moderate leftists began turning toward the Republican Party.
So as TO DISTINGUISH THEMSELVES FROM traditional conservatives, they coined the term "neoconservatism."
Neoconservatives, Kristol asserts, are "not at all hostile to the idea of a welfare state" -even if they reject the "vast and energetic bureaucracies" created by the Great Society.
Neoconservatives ENDORSE "social security, unemployment insurance," and "some kind of family assistance plan," among other measures.
But what's most interesting, particularly at a time when ObamaCare has DIVIDED the country, is that Kristol reminds us thatneoconservatives SUPPORT "some form of national health insurance."
In all truthfulness, however, neither a degree in political science nor an IQ above four is required to know thatneoconservatism has always championed Big Government
for it is its foreign policy vision more than anything else that distinguishes it from its competitors.
For neoconservatives, America is "exceptional" in being, as Kristol puts it, "a creedal nation,"the only nation in all of human history to have been founded upon an "ideology" of equality, of "natural rights."
The U.S.A., then, has a responsibility to promote this ideology throughout the world.
And it is by way of a potentially boundless military - i.e. Big Government - that this "ideological patriotism" is to be executed.
Had the foregoing political scientists been looking in the right places, they would BE FORCED TO CONCLUDE that most "conservatives" are secretly neoconservatives.
So, you see that those WHO THEY CALL
"neoconservatives", are really nothing more than
the old moderate side of the DemocRATS.
It's just THAT SIMPLE .
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posted on
12/24/2015 5:45:41 PM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Someone has thrown his hat in with the oligarchy establishment.
86
posted on
12/24/2015 5:48:20 PM PST
by
a fool in paradise
(The goal of Socialism is Communism. Marx and Lenin were in agreement on this.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
How old is George? Is he dementia eligible yet?
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posted on
12/24/2015 6:16:04 PM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support the troops pray for their victory!)
To: DugwayDuke
Accurate. I really dislike people putting their spin into the mouths of others.
88
posted on
12/24/2015 6:38:44 PM PST
by
Awgie
(truth is always stranger than fiction)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
They dont want Repubs and Dems uniting to throw off the chains of the establishment. Trump would get many Dem votes.
89
posted on
12/24/2015 6:43:24 PM PST
by
Carry me back
(.Cut the feds by 90%)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Nothing is more important that beating Hillary. Hillary=More Libs on the Supreme Court=Game over.
90
posted on
12/24/2015 7:39:09 PM PST
by
Impy
(They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
To: Impy
Imagine.
Instead of 0bama as
Dictator for Life
we get
Hillary as
Dictator for Life
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posted on
12/24/2015 7:41:50 PM PST
by
combat_boots
(The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Idjit George. Does he think Trump would trample all over The Constitution to get his way the way Hitlery Abedin Rotten surely would?
92
posted on
12/24/2015 9:11:24 PM PST
by
Texas Eagle
(If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
To: Mariner
Everyone who lives in Washington DC and environs has itI must take exception to this, as there *are* those of us who live in either DC or the environs who shun and abhor groupthink in all its various permutations...
the infowarrior
To: samtheman
Oh, please. He's wrong, he may be obnoxious to you, but he doesn't deserve to be put down like a mad dog. Not even close.
94
posted on
12/25/2015 1:30:14 AM PST
by
lentulusgracchus
("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
To: lentulusgracchus
I did not say put down. You said that. Try to keep up.
96
posted on
12/25/2015 2:16:42 AM PST
by
samtheman
(Only Trump can beat the Saudi-funded Fraud Machine in the general election.)
To: samtheman
Go back to your original post, Brainiac.
Putting down is what one does as a remedy with a problematic (and you do stipulate Will is a problem) "mad dog .... foaming at the mouth".
Your words, Dr. Schweitzer. Back to you. And no, I'm not brooming up your poop.
97
posted on
12/25/2015 2:41:03 AM PST
by
lentulusgracchus
("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
To: lentulusgracchus
I did not say put down. You said put down. Keep up.
98
posted on
12/25/2015 3:59:43 AM PST
by
samtheman
(Only Trump can beat the Saudi-funded Fraud Machine in the general election.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Liberal pansy...go hang out with some other NPR woosies.
99
posted on
12/25/2015 5:50:10 AM PST
by
CincyRichieRich
(Some Animals are more equal than others.)
To: DesertRhino
The dirty truth is that besides Reagan who they hated the gop is not conservative. The Royals stick together lest the vulgarians get out of control.
100
posted on
12/25/2015 7:53:23 AM PST
by
itsahoot
(Anyone receiving a Woo! Woo! for President has never won anything after the award.)
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