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On Private Fundraiser Recording Ted Cruz Says "Gravity" Will Undo Trump and Carson
Slate ^ | December 10, 2015 | Elliot Hannon

Posted on 12/10/2015 11:08:09 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

"....Ted Cruz's remarks, which the Times published a five-minute clip of on Thursday, were nowhere near as campaign-shattering as Romney's. The clip did, however, provide some insight into Cruz's thinking about the race and, notably, Donald Trump. The Texas senator has been noticeably reluctant to criticize his flame-throwing rival in the hopes of picking up his supporters when the flames ultimately engulf Trump's campaign. If that was his implied campaign strategy, Cruz says it explicitly to the crowd gathered at a Madison Avenue office.

Here's some of what Cruz had to say about Trump and Carson (via the Times):

>>>I like and respect both Donald and Ben. I do not believe either one is going to be our nominee. I don't believe either one is going to be our president. I think both of them, their campaigns have a natural arc. And with both of them I think gravity is pulling them down... Carson is further in that descent. You look at Paris, you look at San Bernardino, it's given a seriousness to this race, that people are looking for: Who is prepared to be a commander in chief? Who understands the threats we face? Who am I comfortable having their finger on the button? Now that's a question of strength, but it's also a question of judgment. And I think that is a question that is a challenging question for both of them. So my approach, much to the frustration of the media has been to bear hug both of them, and smother them with love. People run as who they are. I believe gravity will bring both of those campaigns down, I think the lion's share of their supporters come to us.<<<

(Excerpt) Read more at slate.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016election; bencarson; canadian; cruz; election2016; elliothannon; gopprimary; leadership; newyork; slate; tedcruz; texas; trump
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To: nopardons

I wonder why Ted does the kelly file. megyn tends to skewer him.


21 posted on 12/10/2015 11:43:33 PM PST by Vision Thing
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To: nopardons

Sure, you’re welcome.


22 posted on 12/10/2015 11:43:35 PM PST by TexasCruzin ( He always hits back.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
That's right, deary, cherry-pick and leave out the TRUMP stuff.

What on earth has happened to you? You're like a completely different person from the one I was good friends with.

23 posted on 12/10/2015 11:50:09 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Vision Thing

Oh she was mostly kissing his arse tonight.


24 posted on 12/10/2015 11:50:38 PM PST by nopardons
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To: TexasCruzin
:-)
25 posted on 12/10/2015 11:51:00 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

I posted the link to the 6 minute video because I WANT it to be heard verbatim, “deary,” so that your wrong characterization is confronted and exposed for the spin that it is.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/12/10/ted-cruz-blasts-obamas-calls-gun-control-following-san-bernardino-terror-attack


26 posted on 12/10/2015 11:52:47 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

But you chose to cherry-pick a certain portion and write that all out; didums.


27 posted on 12/10/2015 11:57:01 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons; Vision Thing
I just replayed the Cruz/Megyn segment. Cruz basically said let the voters determine who the best candidate is. Megyn tried to pin him down, Cruz said it's a Times report using anonymous sources. There were no pretzels, squirming or weasels anywhere on the set.

FYI, I'm a Trump supporter. I follow Reagan's Rule. I'd like Cruz to be Trump's VP. Pissing on Cruz is not helpful.

28 posted on 12/10/2015 11:57:17 PM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: yadent
He didn't answer because it was a privete fundraiser.

He is asking people to donate money and giving them his strategy-SO WHAT.

You want him to tell the people he's asking to back him -that he's the same as all the others and doesn't know if he can win or not? Really?

I'd like to know who made the recording and released it?

Where did they come from-GOPe? Jeb? Trump?

It would quite educational to know which campaign they came from.

I thought this was about nothing when I first read about it.

Now that I've heard the tape:

It's about less than nothing.

29 posted on 12/11/2015 12:03:16 AM PST by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: Chgogal
FYI, I'm a Trump supporter. I follow Reagan's Rule. I'd like Cruz to be Trump's VP. Pissing on Cruz is not helpful.

I'm not too worked up about this one either. Cruz has a right to have a strategy for crying out loud, and he still isn't saying anything bad about Trump.

Trump should save the big guns for later, although he could make a crack about "gravity" in his next speech LOL

30 posted on 12/11/2015 12:03:18 AM PST by W.P. Wily
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To: nopardons
But you chose to cherry-pick a certain portion and write that all out; didums.

I excerpted the text copy at the source - the teaser - that is below the linked video and added this [and identified it as from the interview]: "Obama said, 'Christians and Jews kill people too.'......"

You are correct that I did not transcribe the entire 6 minute exchange. I didn't think I had too. Kelly's questions and Cruz's answers are toward the end of the 6 minute interview and it's worth the time.

31 posted on 12/11/2015 12:03:44 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Chgogal

There’s a tape of him saying what hes said and I just replayed it as well and he is using weasel words and squirming.


32 posted on 12/11/2015 12:03:56 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Oh I saws it the first time around and just looked at the recording of it.

I meant that you should have quoted what was relevant; not the beginning of the whole 6 minutes. But that isn't your style, I guess.

33 posted on 12/11/2015 12:07:47 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

He simply implies he believes their popularity will naturally wane with time when trust, faith, and confidence in their abilities to be the commander in chief are considered.

Plotting a candidate’s popularity along a scale of time produces an arc, similar to a projectile’s trajectory over time as gravity takes over.

What do you find wrong in his statement?


34 posted on 12/11/2015 12:08:07 AM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: nopardons

The link to the six minute segment was provided in post #26. Freepers can watch it themselves and see how delusional you are.


35 posted on 12/11/2015 12:08:17 AM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: TexasCruzin

I thought it lovely what Cruz said. Imagine what Trump’s meetings are full-of swearing and cutting everyone down.
“One of the first things I’d do in terms of executive order if I win would be to sign a strong, strong statement that will go out to the country, out to the world, that anybody caught killing a policeman, policewoman, police officer — anybody killing a police officer: death penalty,” Trump said to loud applause. “It’s gonna happen. OK? We can’t let this go.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/10/trump-ill-use-an-executive-order-to-give-all-cop-killers-the-death-penalty/#ixzz3tzvl57Y0
And the police union endorsed him.


36 posted on 12/11/2015 12:10:32 AM PST by libbylu (Trump - BICKERING LIKE A SCHOOLBOY. (I said it before Cruz did)!!!)
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To: nopardons

lolol.. First shoot out. Are you sure the man won’t take the whiny baby?


37 posted on 12/11/2015 12:12:09 AM PST by libbylu (Trump - BICKERING LIKE A SCHOOLBOY. (I said it before Cruz did)!!!)
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To: nopardons
I meant that you should have quoted what was relevant; not the beginning of the whole 6 minutes. But that isn't your style, I guess.

Be my guest, no one's stopping you - transcribe it.

38 posted on 12/11/2015 12:16:21 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: nopardons

Are you seeing it through Trump’s eyes? Cause I didn’t get that at all. I watched it.


39 posted on 12/11/2015 12:20:56 AM PST by libbylu (Trump - BICKERING LIKE A SCHOOLBOY. (I said it before Cruz did)!!!)
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To: W.P. Wily
Or:

Trump: Everybody loves me. Don't you feel all the love in this place. Even Cruz loves me. He wants to smother me with love. You heard him yesterday. He said THAT!

40 posted on 12/11/2015 12:25:48 AM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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