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CBS/NYT Poll: Trump [35%] Back On Top, Cruz [16%] Edges Carson For Runner-Up Nationally
Hot Air ^ | 12/10/2015 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 12/10/2015 10:09:58 AM PST by conservativejoy

Donald Trump gets his highest rating in the CBS/New York Times polling series, while Ben Carson's slide has become unmistakable. Ted Cruz has moved into second place with 16%, making his move with evangelicals. Trump gets 35% of the respondents to support him, but CBS notes that most of the interviews for this poll took place prior to Trump's call for a ban on entry for Muslims to the US:

Thirty-five percent of Republican primary voters support Trump, up 13 points since October, and his highest level of support in CBS News polling. Ted Cruz (16 percent) has moved into second place, while Ben Carson, who led the October poll, has dropped to third.

Marco Rubio is in fourth place with 9 percent. Jeb Bush is getting the backing of just 3 percent of Republican primary voters nationwide, his lowest percentage to date in CBS News polling. Carly Fiorina's support has also dropped; she is at just 1 percent now.

Most of the interviews for this poll were conducted before Trump made statements concerning a ban on Muslims entering the United States.

Would that have made a 19-point difference , or even a 13-point difference, which is the amount gained by Trump between the previous poll and this one? Probably not. Trump's 13-point gain in this series exactly matches Carson’s 13-point drop in it over the same period of time, and that appears to parallel the recent shift in focus to national security. Trump's bombast makes him sound like a leader, or really more of a bully and braggart, but the vacuum of leadership in this country on national security has voters hungry for anything that even resembles confidence and leadership. Carson doesn't project that, and foreign policy has been his weak point all along.

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It's not quite a plunge, but Carson is suffering from a definite fade. Both Cruz and Marco Rubio are possibly getting a little benefit from that, but on this chart it seems clear that Carson's voters are migrating toward Trump. That makes sense; both candidates represent the demand for someone outside the established GOP roster, so one's fade will be the other's boon, at least for the moment.

Cruz and Rubio may be getting at least some of their boost from the dissipation of support from the rest of the field. The CBS/NYT poll has Jeb Bush at 3% and Carly Fiorina all the way down to 1%, which isn't far off from their RCP averages, either. That makes the upcoming CNN debate rather interesting. Remember, the criteria to make the main stage requires candidates to have at least 3.5% in national polling, and 4% in average polling in either New Hampshire or Iowa [see update]. In the last five polls in the RCP listing, Bush has an average of 3.6%. Chris Christie averages 2.5% over the same period, and Fiorina gets a 2.2% average. CNN's decision depends on which polls they choose for their average, of course, but right now it looks like the main debate will have at most five contestants, and Bush is a big maybe on the cusp.

CBS and the NYT will release the crosstabs this evening, so Allahpundit may revisit this. One can be certain that the campaigns, and CNN, will be parsing these results very, very carefully, too.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; immigration; polls; trump; trumpwasright
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1 posted on 12/10/2015 10:09:58 AM PST by conservativejoy
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To: conservativejoy

LOL! That’s “CBS” I manages to delete the “C”!! This may be more accurate.


2 posted on 12/10/2015 10:10:54 AM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: conservativejoy

I completely forgot about Carson until today. It is amazing how quickly he has disappeared.


3 posted on 12/10/2015 10:11:16 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: PghBaldy

I think Carson has a place in a new administration - just not at the top. He doesn’t have the real world experience in dealing with the cast of characters a POTUS has to deal with.


4 posted on 12/10/2015 10:12:38 AM PST by Aria (Abortion = murder, the taking of a human life.)
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To: PghBaldy; Patton@Bastogne

Patton @Bastogne predicted that Carson would be in single digits by mid December. I think he’s right.


5 posted on 12/10/2015 10:13:24 AM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: conservativejoy

Patton nailed it!


6 posted on 12/10/2015 10:15:27 AM PST by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance)
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To: Aria

Big take away from this is the sentence that says it looks like the Main Stage of the next debate will have only Five candidates on it!


7 posted on 12/10/2015 10:15:59 AM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: tennmountainman; Patton@Bastogne

yes, good call. Actually, I had wrongly predicted that several of the single-digit guys would have dropped already, including Paul, Christie, Santorum, Bush, etc.


8 posted on 12/10/2015 10:17:36 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: conservativejoy

For the life of me I will never understand the Carson spike.


9 posted on 12/10/2015 10:17:43 AM PST by Psalm 144 (The mill grinds exceedingly fine.)
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To: conservativejoy

A CBS/NYT poll no less. GO TRUMP GO


10 posted on 12/10/2015 10:18:01 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: conservativejoy
There's a few million of us who don't want them coming here...because we absolutely know that there are terrorists among them.

The solution....Do something similar to the refugee camp set up at Fort Ontario in 1944.

And if you don't think we're at war with Muslims, you're kidding yourself.

It's like any other war...there are warriors and there are the remainders who support them in one way or another.

Islam is not a religion. Wake Up!!

11 posted on 12/10/2015 10:20:46 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: conservativejoy
Trump gets 35% of the respondents to support him, but CBS notes that most of the interviews for this poll took place prior to Trump's call for a ban on entry for Muslims to the US:

And they mention this because they think it means he will go down. How stupid are these people. He will be over 40 percent in the next poll.

12 posted on 12/10/2015 10:22:03 AM PST by Defiant (There are two Republican parties--the GOPe and the PRP (People's Republican Party). PRP will win.)
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To: conservativejoy

He seems all knowing. I am somewhat shocked.


13 posted on 12/10/2015 10:25:00 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Aria

You are prob right.


14 posted on 12/10/2015 10:25:17 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Psalm 144

I think it was a phony spike following on the heels of Trump saying he would drop out if he was down in the polls.


15 posted on 12/10/2015 10:26:07 AM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: PghBaldy; All

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GOP 2016 Predictions : Ben Carson at 7.5 % by Christmas — Yeb Bush Waterloo in Florida Defeat !

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3356989/posts

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16 posted on 12/10/2015 10:29:30 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Psalm 144

For the life of me I will never understand the Carson spike.


If you don’t like Trump or Cruz, where else are you supposed to go?


17 posted on 12/10/2015 10:29:41 AM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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To: conservativejoy

FIve candidates at most, and Bush is on the cusp. So Trump, Cruz, Carson, Rubio, and possibly Bush. This should both make the main debate more interesting and the undercard more relevant to finally getting more of the riff-raff out. My one concern is that things may become narrowed down to Trump, Cruz, and a single establishment candidate too quickly.


18 posted on 12/10/2015 10:33:21 AM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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To: conservativejoy
They even have their own logo:


19 posted on 12/10/2015 10:34:16 AM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Hieronymus
Five candidates at most and Bush is on the cusp

You overestimate the integrity of the puppetmasters. There is no cusp for the Jebster. The bar will be set as low as it needs to in order for whomever they want on stage to be there.

20 posted on 12/10/2015 10:41:25 AM PST by grania
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