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Donald Trump to GOP establishment: Just try me
Vox ^

Posted on 12/09/2015 5:38:14 AM PST by TangledUpInBlue

A new poll indicates that 68% of my supporters would vote for me if I departed the GOP & ran as an independent. https://t.co/ztP5d2ctZl — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 8, 2015

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To: TangledUpInBlue
Reagan remarked that the Democrat Party left him.

Look around people. The Republican Party left you years ago.

The Republican establishment is more concerned with keeping their power and position, whether majority or minority, than they are in representing the American people. They would vote and support Hillary because they are comforted that she would help maintain the status quo.

The same Republican voices hinting (loudly) that they would not support Trump as the nominee would also not support Cruz. Most of the remaining wannabes are complaint enough to fit in with maintaining the status quo.

Battered Conservatives Syndrome is alive as the conservatives hang on to the Republican Party as it veers leftward at full speed.

If Trump or Cruz do start winning primaries, will the Republican establishment go along or will they sabotage their own potential nominee? Chances are, it will be the latter.

81 posted on 12/09/2015 7:00:23 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: TangledUpInBlue

There is no constitutional right for migrants to come to America. The USA can and should impose immigration restrictions based on civilizational/cultural compatibilities.

Trump 2016 - Molon Labe


82 posted on 12/09/2015 7:03:21 AM PST by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

He GETS MY VOTE for the simple reason he is the only one standing up to the Gelding Old Party.


83 posted on 12/09/2015 7:03:36 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: greene66

greene66 wrote:
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Yes, I’d go Trump over some GOP-E doofus. In a bloomin’ heartbeat.

And I’d savor the vote. Been backstabbed by the GOP for too long. Only a few reasons I had left to vote GOP, and they either caved, capitulated, or joined with the left. To stop amnesty, stop Obamacare, stop homo-marriage. The GOP choked on all three. I no longer have any reason to ever support the Republican Party again.

Doesn’t even mean I’m all that invested in Trump. I just want to stomp on the skulls of the GOP. There’s no longer even a country left for me to care about preserving, so all that part of politics is moot to me. I just want the people who destroyed my country and turned it into this sick, depraved, faggoty third-world sewer to suffer and die.
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I wish there was a “Like” button I could click over and over again for your eloquent post because I completely agree with every frickin’ word of it! Eight years ago, I would’ve NEVER imagined in a million years this is how I would someday feel about my beloved country and the GOP. But after witnessing the sinister transformation of America under Hussein Obama and the Dem’s unfettered, unchecked, tyrannical, statist, radical left-wing Marxist rule, all accomplished with the GOP-E’s blessing, I believe you now speak for tens of millions of Americans like myself!


84 posted on 12/09/2015 7:04:33 AM PST by DestroyLiberalism
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To: TangledUpInBlue

The only Republican candidate that I would support over Trump as a Independent.

Ted Cruz.


85 posted on 12/09/2015 7:05:08 AM PST by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: M Kehoe
The GOP doesn't need Trump's help - they alone are responsible for their own self-inflicted death!!!!

The GOP FULLY FUNDED Obie's illegal unconstitutional amnesty after running in 2014 to stop this!!


86 posted on 12/09/2015 7:06:31 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: TangledUpInBlue
I am not a conspiracy theorist at all. But if he runs as an independent, no one will ever convince me otherwise that this wasn't the plan all along to put Hillary in the White House. The two of them would be political Machiavellian geniuses.

Another way of looking at it is that he is daring the GOPe to show its true colors by exhibiting a willingness to throw the whole deal in order to stop him....it is the GOPe that is attacking what appears to be our side's "favorite son" for now....

Now for a short public service announcement to all on FR:
We need to ensure we don't get another Obama-like America Hater as the next President.
The best way to ensure that is to actively support a candidate as the next President.
I prefer Cruz and my money goes to his campaign, hence the Cruz link. If you like someone else, donate to him/her (find your own link to do it) and if you use FR and don't donate, then please don't complain about the welfare leeches or those who have Obama Phones because, functionally, you are no different than any other FReeloader

PS - If you are one of those who cannot afford even a small donation to FR or a candidate, God Bless and happy FReeping!.....

GO CRUZ!! Keep it up Trump!!

Donate to FR

Donate to Cruz

Donate to FR

87 posted on 12/09/2015 7:06:45 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Bushbacker1

>>Push Trump to a third party and Hillary is elected. (Maybe that’s the Uniparty’s plan)

If that is the plan, then there isn’t a damn thing we can do until it has played out and Hillary is crowned (or more likely, Obama is serving an unlawful third term in her place).

If the party bosses and vote counters conspire to take this election out of the hands of the voters, then our path will be clearly marked. Until then, we just carry on and hope that our trust in Trump or Cruz is not a mistake.


88 posted on 12/09/2015 7:11:21 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: TangledUpInBlue
For years the "conservative" talkshow hosts (you know who they are) have "educated" us that the way to change the Republican Party back to a once-great conservative party was from within ... that is, not to try to create a third party.

Well, we now are painfully aware of the unbelievable downside to following that "professional" advice ... the Republican Party run by the GOPEs and RINOs (please forgive the redundancy) will take a poison-pill and destroy the Party rather than embrace conservative/Constitutional principles.

89 posted on 12/09/2015 7:11:27 AM PST by glennaro
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To: TangledUpInBlue
I've wondered how a political party like the Whigs managed to commit suicide and it looks more and more like we're going to get a firsthand, real-time demonstration.

Despite their best efforts so far, this election doesn't look like it will be the usual shark jumping competition we've come to expect from the GOPe.

God Bless you, Donald Trump! What you've brought is long overdue.

Nothing's too big to fail, especially not a political party that switches sides and then plays its base.

90 posted on 12/09/2015 7:12:11 AM PST by GBA (Just a hick in paradise and There Are FOUR Lights!)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Trump can win as a IND, you are totally off base


91 posted on 12/09/2015 7:17:02 AM PST by Chauncey Uppercrust (CRUZ/TRUMP 2016 OR BUST)
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To: magua

If he has the nomination he is the leader of the party.

Why would you leave a party you control?


92 posted on 12/09/2015 7:17:58 AM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: nitzy

Cruz does not have a prayer of winning a general election. If he were the nominee he would be hit with his eligibility. No matter what he says or the courts say, the average American would believe he is not eligible.

His supporters may believe he can magically sail past that obstacle but I don’t think he can.


93 posted on 12/09/2015 7:23:18 AM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

If the GOPe embraced the overwhelming frontrunner this wouldn’t be a problem. They opposed Reagan, too.


94 posted on 12/09/2015 7:23:41 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

But was it the plan of the GOP or of Trump?

Clinton is Bush’s family friend.


95 posted on 12/09/2015 7:26:08 AM PST by xzins (HAVE YOU DONATED TO THE FREEPATHON? https://secure.freerepublic.com/)
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To: frnewsjunkie

Isn’t it obvious that if the GOP politicos wanted to, they could win this in a landslide? Trump is golden. He appeals to the widest group of voters the party has seen in a long time. Pair him with the right running mate, and it’s a juggernaut. An American juggernaut. Trump is a huge asset.

But the fact is, they have fought and resisted and naysayed, and even declared for the democrat, such is their fear and loathing of Trump.

It truly is the statist uniparty, republican and democrat combined against us, at all cost, to defeat anyone who may interfere with the ongoing subversion of our country, our freedom, our liberty, our independence, our sovereignty.

They don’t want us to win.

FWIW I’m a Cruz supporter.


96 posted on 12/09/2015 7:28:53 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: TangledUpInBlue
I am not a conspiracy theorist at all. But if he runs as an independent, no one will ever convince me otherwise that this wasn't the plan all along to put Hillary in the White House.

Don't kid yourself. After Trump has come out publicly and labeled Hillary Rotten Clinton a "criminal" among other accurate labels? And even playing devil's advocate for a moment and hypothetically considering your 'theory', do you think that Trump's ego would permit him to essentially serve as a willing enabler and empower the Hildabeast to assume power that HE is most assuredly better equipped to wield?

More over, Trump KNOWS that with the entire world trying to align against him, that his odds of success are in fact increasing exponentially. He has the overwhelming support of the American people, and you can be sure that IF Trump launches a third party bid should the GOP try to screw him over, it will not only be a YUGE success, it will eclipse and surpass the GOP and they will fade into the history books as they so deserve to do.

GO TRUMP GO!!

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97 posted on 12/09/2015 7:29:44 AM PST by mkjessup (Trump is kicking the ass of the GOPe, RINOs & the media. Don't like him? He must be kicking YOUR ass)
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To: Principled
It appears to me that the GOPe is going through Elisabeth Kubler-Ross's five stages of grief (Wikipedia):

Denial - The first reaction is denial. In this stage individuals believe the diagnosis is somehow mistaken, and cling to a false, preferable reality.
Anger - When the individual recognizes that denial cannot continue, it becomes frustrated, especially at proximate individuals. Certain psychological responses of a person undergoing this phase would be: "Why me? It's not fair!"; "How can this happen to me?"; '"Who is to blame?"; "Why would this happen?".
Bargaining - The third stage involves the hope that the individual can avoid a cause of grief. Usually, the negotiation for an extended life is made in exchange for a reformed lifestyle. People facing less serious trauma can bargain or seek compromise.
Depression - "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"; "I'm going to die soon so what's the point?"; "I miss my loved one, why go on?" During the fourth stage, the individual becomes saddened by the mathematical probability of death. In this state, the individual may become silent, refuse visitors and spend much of the time mournful and sullen.
Acceptance - "It's going to be okay."; "I can't fight it, I may as well prepare for it."; "Nothing is impossible." In this last stage, individuals embrace mortality or inevitable future, or that of a loved one, or other tragic event. People dying may precede the survivors in this state, which typically comes with a calm, retrospective view for the individual, and a stable condition of emotions.

Unfortunately, they're still somewhere between Denial and Anger.

98 posted on 12/09/2015 7:30:26 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Menthops

And if someone like Cruz is the nominee? GOP runs a conservative candidate since Regan and you stand in line behind Trump? What the heck...?


99 posted on 12/09/2015 7:31:01 AM PST by plewis1250 (The pecking order: Christian, American, Conservative)
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To: M Kehoe

Trump is not part of a conspiracy with Hellary, he could not have planned the YUGE movement of American patriots that support him. That cannot be “planned” for even by a great genious. He started this movement by giving a voice to frustrated folks who love this country like he does. He has put himself in the bullseye for every nutcase and jihadi that wants to take him out. Why would he lay his life on the line unless he cares for America more than he cares for his life? Who would do that for Hellary, for goodness sakes??


100 posted on 12/09/2015 7:31:16 AM PST by georgiegirl
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