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Turkey Moving 1000 Vehicles Including Leopard 2A4 Tanks From 1St Army To Syrian Border
ProNews ^ | November 28, 2015

Posted on 11/29/2015 7:07:56 AM PST by Strategy

Translation:

"Endless battalions of tanks, APCs and Firtina self-propelled howitzers are being transferred from the region of Evros and the Zone of Responsibility of the 1st Army to the borders with Syria and there is information to suggest movement of Leo2A4 tanks with 120mm guns and much greater survivability against the Russian T-90 than the upgraded M60T SABRA.

The tanks are being moved from the western provinces of Turkey and joined the 5th Armoured Brigade based in Gaziantep.

Turkish tanks are transported by all means. Some arrive by train, others by tank carriers.

Overall, more than 1,000 battle tanks, artillery, APCs and self-propelled rocket launchers were moved from Eastern Thrace in the direction of Syria.

The Turkish 1st Army comprises four Armored Brigades, 7 Mechanized Infantry Brigades and two Infantry Divisions. The proportion of Greek and Turkish tanks in the Evros region is 1: 1.9.

However the Turkish armoured and mechanised Brigades are formations of four or five manoeuvring until, deploying a total of about 28 squadrons of tanks, while under the 5th Army Corps also falls an independent reconaissance squadron.

(Excerpt) Read more at pronews.gr ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; obama; russia; syria; turkey
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To: dila813

Do the Russians have anything like the A10?


41 posted on 11/29/2015 8:11:18 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: All; stevie_d_64

A relevant and related article from FoxTrotAlpha on the T-90: http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/what-america-can-learn-from-russias-cheap-but-deadly-t-1540829820


42 posted on 11/29/2015 8:11:45 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: riverrunner

Maybe we could lend Russia some A-10s? It is becoming obvious that the USA is now siding with the ISIS terrorists. Hello Congress is any body home?


43 posted on 11/29/2015 8:15:27 AM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied, Otto Von Bismarck)
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To: Farmer Dean
The SU-25 Frogfoot - which looks more than a little like the YA-9. The YA-9 was the competing prototype in the US A-X program that the A-10 eventually won.

SU-25 Frogfoot:


44 posted on 11/29/2015 8:18:03 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: jpsb

They have the SU-25SM. While not quite as good (or survivable) as the A-10, it’s a decent dedicated and armored ground attack aircraft and is quite good at killing tanks in its own right.


45 posted on 11/29/2015 8:20:35 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: American Constitutionalist
Erdogan....

A play on words, rather letters of a name..

The only seven letter word that comes up is "groaned".

46 posted on 11/29/2015 8:21:54 AM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: PIF

Well, depending on what the Turks and Russians end up doing, they might have actually done better with their upgraded M60s. The Israelis developed the upgrade packs for them:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_%28tank%29

Note the ERA armor - that the 2A4s don’t have.


47 posted on 11/29/2015 8:25:09 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Farmer Dean

no idea, but I don’t think Turkey is going to take on Russia, they would just move into a space in the country that is friendly without any Russian or Syrian troops.

Without troops on the ground in the area where they would move, they just have to drive across the border ... you don’t have to fear anti-tank weapons where there isn’t anyone to fire them.

I wouldn’t be surprised that Turkey won’t call it an anti-ISIS action with the claim that Russian aircraft are coming too close to the border and they have to secure it to deescalate with Russia.


48 posted on 11/29/2015 8:26:27 AM PST by dila813
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To: Spktyr
Head to head: Su-25 vs. A-10

Most telling stat is the Su-25s' gun has 250 rounds the A-10s' gun has nearly 1200 rounds.

49 posted on 11/29/2015 8:28:22 AM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied, Otto Von Bismarck)
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To: gaijin
Get Turkey OUT of NATO.

When they said, "NO" to the USA during one of our Iraq interventions, they officially quit NATO and should be unceremoniously removed from it.

50 posted on 11/29/2015 8:32:34 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Strategy

I ain't going.
My kids aren't going.
Screw Turkey and the short bus King Obama.

51 posted on 11/29/2015 8:34:55 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Strategy

What is Russian air to ground anti tank capability?


52 posted on 11/29/2015 8:38:09 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (islam is a totalitarian death cult founded by a child rapist.)
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To: jpsb
Yup. It isn't as good as the A-10 - but it's still pretty good at killing tanks and surface vehicles. The Russians generally prefer to fit gun pods for surface attack - the SU-25 often flies with two gun pods containing 500 rounds of ammo each and they're actually better for anti-tank work in some respects. Here is an SPPU-22 on a Frogfoot, mounted backwards for ferry purposes. Note the downward pointing (and aimable!) twin barrel cannon for top-down tank killing. With this arrangement, the aircraft does not have to dive on a tank to score hits.


53 posted on 11/29/2015 8:39:50 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: dila813

Yeah that the MALD system I think it is called - but the USAF may not have purchaced or deployed it - lot of budget going to F-35s ...

US Air force unveils S-400 KILLER MISSILES to scare Putin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A85Czh9KexI.


55 posted on 11/29/2015 8:40:25 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Vermont Lt

“Endless Batallions of tanks”......

A “Target Rich Environment” is the technical term...


56 posted on 11/29/2015 8:44:14 AM PST by AFret.
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To: Strategy

MORE FOR PUTIN TO BLOW UP .......
solution impeach obama before he takes us into a nuke war

RUSSIA IS CLEANING HOUSE OF ISIS...
isn’t isis our enemy
BUT ITS TURKEY’S FRIEND AND ALLY
JV
CONTIANED
so nato is going to be fighting with isis???????
better READ THE DETAILS OF THE NATO ALLIANCE... before we get sucked in


57 posted on 11/29/2015 8:51:05 AM PST by zzwhale
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To: Vermont Lt

Isaiah 34 2For the LORD’S indignation is against all the nations, And His wrath against all their armies; He has utterly destroyed them, He has given them over to slaughter. 3So their slain will be thrown out, And their corpses will give off their stench, And the mountains will be drenched with their blood. 4And all the host of heaven will wear away, And the sky will be rolled up like a scroll; All their hosts will also wither away As a leaf withers from the vine, Or as one withers from the fig tree.…


58 posted on 11/29/2015 9:05:19 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Restore Liberty!)
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To: Diogenesis
I wonder if this is all miss direction for the invasion of Israel
59 posted on 11/29/2015 9:07:05 AM PST by Tramonto
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To: jennychase

Ditto post #11, however, keep your eye on what Russia does with their SA-400’s.. They could reap havoc with the fighter aircraft activity in the region, even without firing a single missile. 0dunga doesn’t have the BALLS to tell Russia to remove them or else, so.. Somethin’ gonna happen because of those SA-400’s, just watch.


60 posted on 11/29/2015 9:18:44 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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