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Carson says, wrongly, that Thomas Jefferson crafted the Constitution
Politico ^ | November 23, 2015 | Nolan D. McCaskill

Posted on 11/23/2015 9:52:10 AM PST by C19fan

Of America’s Founding Fathers, Ben Carson is most moved by Thomas Jefferson, partly because of the way he “tried to craft our Constitution,” the retired neurosurgeon said this weekend. In a Sunday interview on C-SPAN as part of its “Road to the White House” series, Carson said he was “impressed by a lot of them,” referring to the Founding Fathers.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; bizarre; carson; clownsforsanders; dailysmear; elections; freepersforhillary; gopeattackbots; niceguybut; potus; trump; trumpwasright
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1 posted on 11/23/2015 9:52:11 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Carson is awesome, and he gets the big picture issues (at least many of them). He just is not ready for this stage. If he wants to win, he needs to stop talking so much and get narrowly focused on key points. He’s just opening himself up to so many attacks. For no reason.


2 posted on 11/23/2015 9:54:15 AM PST by ilgipper
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To: C19fan

I hope he’s haunted by the ghost of Wee Jemmy.


3 posted on 11/23/2015 9:54:44 AM PST by Oratam
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To: C19fan

Chauncy Gardener redux : )


4 posted on 11/23/2015 9:55:23 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read)
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To: C19fan

Jefferson certainly influenced the drafting of the Constitution and if that’s what Carson means then that’s not inaccurate.


5 posted on 11/23/2015 9:56:43 AM PST by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: C19fan

Also, keep in mind the source of this ‘news’: Politico is not our friend.


6 posted on 11/23/2015 9:57:39 AM PST by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: C19fan

There they go again. Another hit piece that lies about what Carson says, in the title.


7 posted on 11/23/2015 9:58:21 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: C19fan

Jefferson was ambassador to France at the time.

He was trying to keep his head during the French Revolution.

Meanwhile, I believe it was James Madison that penned much of the Constitution, albeit not in a vacuum.


8 posted on 11/23/2015 9:58:28 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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To: C19fan
Carson this, Carson that, Carson "chuck 'im out, the brute" ...

Meanwhile, the communists in Big Media spin, dissemble, obfuscate, and outright lie about 0bama, Klinton, Sanders, and the rest of the demonicrat party.

9 posted on 11/23/2015 9:58:56 AM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: MeganC

He was in Paris serving as minister to France.


10 posted on 11/23/2015 9:59:00 AM PST by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: C19fan

When do the Democrat idiots get their history test. Obama doesn’t seem to know the day of the week. Yet, he is the smartest man alive.


11 posted on 11/23/2015 9:59:06 AM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: C19fan

Prior to today, of all political friends and acquaintances, I knew of NO (0) Carson supporters.

I now can claim I know one (1), from an email this morning.

Given this anecdotal evidence over the past year or two, I can state there is no groundswell for Carson whatsoever.

The guy may have tripped up discerning the Declaration versus the Constitution, but in any case, he is no Constitutional Scholar, of which there is ONLY 1, IMHO, in the race. By a mile, from his nearest competitor.

I’ll give Carson one consolation prize... of the other candidates, he at least mentions the Constitution. Occasionally.


12 posted on 11/23/2015 9:59:23 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is libertye)
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Did Thomas Jefferson write the Constitution? No, he was actually a supporter of the smaller government structure originally proposed in the Articles of Confederation and did not want its revision to mean a stronger, more centralized union.

If Thomas Jefferson wrote the Constitution, he would have preferred leaving many of the enumerated powers in the hands of state governments and may have included checks and balances similar to those he envisioned when he drafted the Virginia Constitution.

However, we can say that he had INFLUENCE on those who help craft the contitution.

Without the influence of Thomas Jefferson, Bill of Rights mainstays such as the right to bear arms and religious freedom may not have held up so strongly.

Although someone like James Madison might be considered father of the Constitution, Thomas Jefferson would ascend to the presidency on principles that advocated for restraint of federal powers and a return to the the agrarian democracy he envisioned.


13 posted on 11/23/2015 9:59:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Genoa; MeganC

Did Thomas Jefferson write the Constitution? No, he was actually a supporter of the smaller government structure originally proposed in the Articles of Confederation and did not want its revision to mean a stronger, more centralized union.

If Thomas Jefferson wrote the Constitution, he would have preferred leaving many of the enumerated powers in the hands of state governments and may have included checks and balances similar to those he envisioned when he drafted the Virginia Constitution.

However, we can say that he had INFLUENCE on those who help craft the contitution.

Without the influence of Thomas Jefferson, Bill of Rights mainstays such as the right to bear arms and religious freedom may not have held up so strongly.

Although someone like James Madison might be considered father of the Constitution, Thomas Jefferson would ascend to the presidency on principles that advocated for restraint of federal powers and a return to the the agrarian democracy he envisioned.


14 posted on 11/23/2015 10:00:12 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: C19fan

Next week Carson will talk about Neil Armstrong winning the Tour of France, Lance Armstrong’s jazz and Louis Armstrong walking on the moon.


15 posted on 11/23/2015 10:01:58 AM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: MeganC

Jefferson was in Paris at the time, I believe, serving as ambassador.


16 posted on 11/23/2015 10:02:49 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: C19fan

Ok that is just too screwed up for a candidate to make.

Although a common mix-up, it doesn’t look good.

From what I understand, Madison himself didn’t even want Jefferson’s input on it, and kept him in the dark about it.


17 posted on 11/23/2015 10:04:19 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: SeekAndFind
Yeah, Jefferson would have been an "Anti-Federalist" for sure.
18 posted on 11/23/2015 10:05:12 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

How do we compare this error with Obama’s “I’ve now been in 57 states-I think one left to go.”?

Here’a another: During a trip to London’s Westminster Abbey, President Obama signed the guest book and dated it 24 May 2008. Oops. It was 2011. (Maybe he was wistfully dreaming about his 2008 election campaign at the time.)

Not only does Obama not know how many states there are, he also doesn’t know where they are. During the 2008 primary campaign, he explained why he was trailing Hillary Clinton in Kentucky: “Sen. Clinton, I think, is much better known, coming from a nearby state of Arkansas. So it’s not surprising that she would have an advantage in some of those states in the middle.”

Obama’s home state of Illinois, and not Arkansas, shares a border with Kentucky.

In April 2009, on one of his many foreign trips, President Obama mused, “I don’t know what the term is in Austrian” for “wheeling and dealing.” Oops, Mr. President. There is no Austrian language.


19 posted on 11/23/2015 10:05:21 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Timber Rattler

I don’t dispute that. But it’s also indisputable that Jefferson had a significant influence on the drafting of the Constitution.


20 posted on 11/23/2015 10:05:41 AM PST by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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