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1 posted on 11/23/2015 9:52:11 AM PST by C19fan
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Carson is awesome, and he gets the big picture issues (at least many of them). He just is not ready for this stage. If he wants to win, he needs to stop talking so much and get narrowly focused on key points. He’s just opening himself up to so many attacks. For no reason.


2 posted on 11/23/2015 9:54:15 AM PST by ilgipper
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I hope he’s haunted by the ghost of Wee Jemmy.


3 posted on 11/23/2015 9:54:44 AM PST by Oratam
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Chauncy Gardener redux : )


4 posted on 11/23/2015 9:55:23 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read)
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Jefferson certainly influenced the drafting of the Constitution and if that’s what Carson means then that’s not inaccurate.


5 posted on 11/23/2015 9:56:43 AM PST by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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Also, keep in mind the source of this ‘news’: Politico is not our friend.


6 posted on 11/23/2015 9:57:39 AM PST by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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There they go again. Another hit piece that lies about what Carson says, in the title.


7 posted on 11/23/2015 9:58:21 AM PST by Olog-hai
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Jefferson was ambassador to France at the time.

He was trying to keep his head during the French Revolution.

Meanwhile, I believe it was James Madison that penned much of the Constitution, albeit not in a vacuum.


8 posted on 11/23/2015 9:58:28 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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Carson this, Carson that, Carson "chuck 'im out, the brute" ...

Meanwhile, the communists in Big Media spin, dissemble, obfuscate, and outright lie about 0bama, Klinton, Sanders, and the rest of the demonicrat party.

9 posted on 11/23/2015 9:58:56 AM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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When do the Democrat idiots get their history test. Obama doesn’t seem to know the day of the week. Yet, he is the smartest man alive.


11 posted on 11/23/2015 9:59:06 AM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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Prior to today, of all political friends and acquaintances, I knew of NO (0) Carson supporters.

I now can claim I know one (1), from an email this morning.

Given this anecdotal evidence over the past year or two, I can state there is no groundswell for Carson whatsoever.

The guy may have tripped up discerning the Declaration versus the Constitution, but in any case, he is no Constitutional Scholar, of which there is ONLY 1, IMHO, in the race. By a mile, from his nearest competitor.

I’ll give Carson one consolation prize... of the other candidates, he at least mentions the Constitution. Occasionally.


12 posted on 11/23/2015 9:59:23 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is libertye)
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Did Thomas Jefferson write the Constitution? No, he was actually a supporter of the smaller government structure originally proposed in the Articles of Confederation and did not want its revision to mean a stronger, more centralized union.

If Thomas Jefferson wrote the Constitution, he would have preferred leaving many of the enumerated powers in the hands of state governments and may have included checks and balances similar to those he envisioned when he drafted the Virginia Constitution.

However, we can say that he had INFLUENCE on those who help craft the contitution.

Without the influence of Thomas Jefferson, Bill of Rights mainstays such as the right to bear arms and religious freedom may not have held up so strongly.

Although someone like James Madison might be considered father of the Constitution, Thomas Jefferson would ascend to the presidency on principles that advocated for restraint of federal powers and a return to the the agrarian democracy he envisioned.


13 posted on 11/23/2015 9:59:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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Next week Carson will talk about Neil Armstrong winning the Tour of France, Lance Armstrong’s jazz and Louis Armstrong walking on the moon.


15 posted on 11/23/2015 10:01:58 AM PST by Timpanagos1
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Ok that is just too screwed up for a candidate to make.

Although a common mix-up, it doesn’t look good.

From what I understand, Madison himself didn’t even want Jefferson’s input on it, and kept him in the dark about it.


17 posted on 11/23/2015 10:04:19 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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Madison and the crowd in Philadelphia were the crafters of the U.S. Constitution. Hamilton, John Jay, and Madison penned the backing theories of the document in the Federalist Papers.

Jefferson was a primary writer and scribe, I believe, for the Declaration of Independence.

Jefferson was certainly a heavy contributor in intellectual content to the Declaration, the Constitution, and the founding principles of liberty and freedom and narrowly powered government we find in our founding documents and foundational government.

Carson is wrong but right, and Politico is a hack outfit.


21 posted on 11/23/2015 10:05:42 AM PST by mbarker12474
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Jefferson did write a draft of the Virginia Constitution but I believe it did not reach the main author, George Mason, in time for inclusion. Need to go verify that...


26 posted on 11/23/2015 10:08:19 AM PST by Billthedrill
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Well Jefferson did work on the 1776 Virginia state constitution. “Among those who drafted the 1776 Constitution were George Mason and James Madison. Thomas Jefferson was Virginia’s representative to the Second Continental Congress in Philadelphia at the time, and his drafts of the Virginia constitution arrived too late to be incorporated into the final document.[3] James Madison’s work on the Virginia Constitution helped him develop the ideas and skills that he would later use as one of the main architects of the United States Constitution.[4]”

Don’t know that Ben was correct on this one but not totally incorrect either. Wrong enough if you are trying to play “Gotcha”, which Politico is.

Where is their story denigrating Bernie Sanders for his bizzaro world history of FDR and his failed new deal?


27 posted on 11/23/2015 10:09:15 AM PST by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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Not a Carson fan but this isn’t that big a deal.


28 posted on 11/23/2015 10:11:43 AM PST by Pelham (A refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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Mixed up. Jefferson penned the Declaration of Independence.


29 posted on 11/23/2015 10:12:24 AM PST by Red Steel
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34 posted on 11/23/2015 10:16:33 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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Pretty common error. Lots of folks have no idea about the committee to draft the Constitution. (It was in a School House Rock vid though)


40 posted on 11/23/2015 10:32:19 AM PST by zeugma (Generation Snowflake. Kinda says it all doesn't it?)
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