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Terri Schiavo case disqualifies Ben Carson and Jeb Bush for presidency: pro-life leader
LifeSiteNews ^ | 11/17/15 | Ben Johnson

Posted on 11/18/2015 6:54:12 AM PST by wagglebee

WASHINGTON, D.C., November 17, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) - The words of Dr. Ben Carson, and the actions of Gov. Jeb Bush, disqualify them both from serving as president of the United States, a leading pro-life leader said today.

"We have seen what it is like to have a president who does not value every life equally, and we certainly do not need another," said Troy Newman, the president of Operation Rescue. "In my opinion, Ben Carson's statement dismissing Terri's life as 'nothing,' and Jeb Bush's failure to take action to save Terri, has disqualified them both from the office of president."

Over the weekend Dr. Ben Carson, one of the current front runners for the Republican presidential nomination, dismissed the Terri Schiavo case as "much ado about nothing."

Schiavo's brother, Bobby Schindler, said yesterday that "Dr. Carson owes every pro-life advocate an apology."

Schindler, who later opened the Terri Schiavo Life and Hope Network to advocate for brain injured patients around the country, said, if elected president, Ben Carson would "represent a one-man death panel."

Rev. Pat Mahoney, the leader of the Christian Defense Coalition, said, "It is hard to imagine any more insensitive and uncaring language describing the tragic circumstances of Terri Schiavo's death."

"With comments like this, one shudders at what kind of Presidential policies he would have concerning end-of-life issues and working with the disability community," Rev. Mahoney said.

Dr. Carson had previously concerned pro-life voters by saying he had referred pregnant women to abortionists if their babies suffer from fetal anomalies and declaring it would be "foolish" not to use the organs of aborted babies for medical research.

Jeb Bush, who was governor of Florida during the Terri Schiavo case, intervened to try to save her life from a court order depriving her of all food and hydration.

However, he backed down from a last ditch effort that may have saved Schiavo's life, according to local media. Jeb Bush appealed an order issued by Pinellas-Pasco County Circuit Judge George W. Greer to deny Schiavo the nourishment keeping her alive. Under Florida law, that appeal suspended the existing order.

Jeb Bush issued the appeal at 8:15 a.m. on Saturday, March 26, 2005. Gov. Bush ordered the Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE) to enter the Hospice House Woodside in Pinellas Park and reinsert her feeding tube at that time. But when city police and county sheriff's officials stood their ground, he reversed himself.

“The FDLE called to say they were en route to the scene,” an unnamed city police official told the Miami Herald. “When the sheriff’s department and our department told them they could not enforce their order, they backed off.”

Just before 11 a.m., Judge Greer found out about the appeal and legally blocked state officials from taking any further action.

Terri Schiavo died five days later.

Jeb Bush has also concerned pro-life Republicans, saying he would have no pro-life "litmus test" for future Supreme Court nominees, saying "of course" he supports exceptions for abortion in the case of rape and incest, and floating attack ads painting his former protege Marco Rubio as too pro-life to win the general election.

After leaving office, Jeb Bush sat on the board of Bloomberg Philanthropies, which launched a worldwide campaign to loosen abortion restrictions in pro-life countries, in partnership with Planned Parenthood Global. Bush served in that capacity until last December, shortly before launching his presidential campaign.

The Ben Carson presidential campaign told LifeSiteNews it would issue a comment today. However, no comment has been issued by the close of business.


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To: wagglebee

A large *AMEN* to that statement.

This, alone, tells all WTP need to know about the ‘men’ who wish to lead.


21 posted on 11/18/2015 9:47:00 AM PST by V K Lee (u TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP to TRIUMPH Follow the lead MAKE AMERICA GREAT)
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To: wagglebee

The more Ben speaks the greater Trumps victory and the greater Ben’s numbers plunge!


22 posted on 11/18/2015 9:55:07 AM PST by Harpotoo
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To: wagglebee
It shows a lack of compassion and value for human life. I have not yet seen Jeb questioned about Terri Schiavo. I would have expected at least somebody would bring it up unless I have missed it.

To repeat: Terri Schiavo was murdered.

23 posted on 11/18/2015 10:32:20 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Dante3

You may have forgotten, but didn’t polls show that a large majority of American citizens favored Terri’s extermination. Not much sympathy for her plight


24 posted on 11/18/2015 4:47:57 PM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: wagglebee

I just read this in a pro life publication, I came here to comment on it.

Was in the last couple of months someone here disagreed with me when I said that Jeb Bush was on the wrong side of the Teri Schavo case.

I remember it very well and Jeb caved absolutely, so I agree with this statement

Operation Rescue President Troy Newman said that Carson’s statement, and then-Florida Governor Jeb Bush’s last-minute actions, disqualified both men from becoming president.


25 posted on 11/18/2015 5:22:59 PM PST by Chauncey Uppercrust (CRUZ/TRUMP 2016 OR BUST)
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To: wagglebee
Jeb Bush issued the appeal at 8:15 a.m. on Saturday, March 26, 2005. Gov. Bush ordered the Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE) to enter the Hospice House Woodside in Pinellas Park and reinsert her feeding tube at that time. But when city police and county sheriff's officials stood their ground, he reversed himself.

¡Jeb! actually was for reinserting the feeding tube, before he was against it...

"Makes sense to me!"


26 posted on 11/18/2015 5:34:04 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'll vote for Jeb when Terri Schiavo endorses him.)
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To: wagglebee
Multiple threads on “We must support the execution of Terri Schiavo because ...” with both old and new murderous supporters popping up.

Oddly enough they all seem to like Jeb Bush and/or Ben Carson, but really will vote for whomever the Democrat candidate is.

Trial balloons?

Hey Jeb, you have zero chance of winning any elective office, ever again.
And you can take your friends Marco and Ben with you.
All of you can go hang out with Charlie Crist!
If nothing else, you could make some money on a youtube parody regarding fakes and tans...LOL!

27 posted on 11/18/2015 6:59:19 PM PST by sarasmom (TRUMP-Because there is no option to vote NONE OF THE ABOVE for the rest of them!)
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To: wagglebee

I think some people believe nutrition and hydration are technologically advanced medical procedures. They get so confused by the big words, they don’t realize it’s just food and water.


28 posted on 11/19/2015 4:55:50 AM PST by BykrBayb (Lung cancer free since 11/9/07. Colon cancer free since 7/7/15. ~ Þ)
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To: Chauncey Uppercrust
I remember it very well and Jeb caved absolutely, so I agree with this statement

Exactly. Jeb had both the constitutional authority AND duty to protect Terri, but he washed his hands of it. Saying that Jeb did everything in his power to save Terri would be like saying that Pilate tried to save Jesus.

29 posted on 11/19/2015 5:53:05 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Theodore R.

Those misinformed people mostly thought she was in a coma or brain dead. The media held all the cards and refused to tell the truth. Take a poll of the people you know around you, in your workplace or neighborhood. I bet most of them thought she was in a coma. Most people I knew thought that until I set them straight.


30 posted on 11/19/2015 9:00:08 AM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: wagglebee

Exactly!


31 posted on 11/19/2015 9:00:40 AM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: BykrBayb

So true.


32 posted on 11/19/2015 9:01:18 AM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: FamiliarFace
Those misinformed people mostly thought she was in a coma or brain dead. The media held all the cards and refused to tell the truth.

And what the media said was completely full of holes.

How does a "brain dead" person or even a person in a "vegetative state" experience "euphoria"? They said that Terri's method of execution was "euphoric," but that would be IMPOSSIBLE for a person to experience without cognitive abilities.

33 posted on 11/19/2015 10:04:16 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Yes, of course! They had to spew their lies to counter that Terri was actually in great and horrible pain, moaning loudly.


34 posted on 11/19/2015 10:33:51 AM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: FamiliarFace
Here are Terri's murderer's own words on the night before she died:

"That evening the hospice ordered pizza and salad for us and the police, and for several hours, Brian [Schiavo], Debbie [Bushnell], George [Felos] and I camped in the room with Terri whose breathing was becoming more labored. George and Brian pulled some chairs together and kind of put their feet up, and we waited."
(Terri: The Truth, pg. 314)

And don't forget that Terri was given morphine throughout the execution which would be unnecessary for someone who wasn't in pain.

35 posted on 11/19/2015 11:20:35 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: FamiliarFace

Yea, the media called it often “coma-like”, and the American people were too uninformed to know. Still are


36 posted on 11/19/2015 12:07:38 PM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: wagglebee

BTTT!


37 posted on 12/29/2015 9:09:08 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: wagglebee

I agree. I wouldn’t vote for either one of them.


38 posted on 12/29/2015 9:10:56 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: wagglebee
An INNOCENT AMERICAN was murdered by judicial order without due process of law, that's an important event.

Agreed. My wife is a neurologist who watched the tapes. She was horrified by what happened. I still have not gotten over it. This only added to my cold anger.

Terri showed very purposeful behavior with her family. They would have provided a loving home. Where was the issue? The issue was indeed death panels and the fulfillment of animist deconstruction.

Jeb could have stopped it and I'm damn sure Carson should have known better.

Neither should ever hold public office.
39 posted on 12/29/2015 9:43:32 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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