Posted on 11/11/2015 2:56:35 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
During last nightâs debate, John Kasich derided Donald Trumpâs immigration stance, calling it âa silly argumentâ to promise that Trump would deport all illegal immigrants. âWe all know you canât pack them up and ship them back across the border,â Kasich said directly to Trump. Trump insisted he could do it, although he still gave no details on how he plans to do so. Earlier today, on Morning Joe, Trump elaborated a little more, adopting Mika Brzezinskiâs nomenclature by promising a âdeportation forceâ to carry out the mission:
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David Rutz at the Free Beacon captures the exchange:
Trump, who has frequently promised a giant âwallâ between the U.S. and Mexico that the latter would pay for, was explaining a sect of his immigration stance when MSNBC co-host Mika Brzezinski asked him how exactly he would deport the millions of illegal immigrants living in the country.
âAre you going to have a massive deportation force?â she asked.
âYouâre going to have a deportation force, and youâre going to do it humanely and youâre going to bring the countryâand frankly, the people, because you have some excellent, wonderful people, some fantastic people that have been here for a long period of time,â Trump said. âDonât forget, Mika, that you have millions of people that are waiting [in] line to come into this country, and theyâre waiting to come in legally.â
A deportation force? Presumably this is different than ICE, with a specialized mission to find 11 million people living among a population of over 300 million, and in the narrow time frame that Trump has previously promised (one year, in a previous debate). Would this be a paramilitary operation, or a law-enforcement agency? If so, how much money would it cost, and how exactly would they round up 11 million people? More to the point, do conservatives really believe that launching a new âdeportation forceâ is consonant with limited-government principles, or more of a giant leap toward a police state?
Put it a different way: Would anyone trust Hillary Clinton with a âdeportation forceâ? Or Barack Obama?
Now, itâs fair to note that the phrase in this case came from Brzezinski, and not Trump. However, that just adds to the perception that Trump is winging it, rather than offering a well-thought-out policy. If he had a policy that didnât include a âdeportation force,â then Trump would hardly have gone along with Brzezinski on this point. At least when pressed to explain his immigration policies, Trump mainly ends up mouthing platitudes about a âbeautiful wallâ (which is good policy), and vague promises to eject millions of people without any specificity about how that gets accomplished. The âdeportation forceâ comment should be a warning not just to conservatives about Trumpâs predilection for top-down authority, but also that heâs largely offering nothing but slogans that he thinks people want to hear.
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Got it. Thanks, and I agree, but was just too daft at the moment.
Cheers.
Go, Trump, GO!!
If you can pack one up and ship it across the border, you can do it with millions. Henry Ford proved it with manufacturing.
This is not a big problem. It doesn’t have to be done on a time table.
Build the fence. Enforce the law. Stop the entry of new border crossers and just enforce the law, and the problem will right itself over a few years time. The problem has never been getting them out, the problem has been the fact that more come than we can ever hope to get out, with the border wide open. Close the border, and then the problem becomes manageable. There is no hurry once you’ve shut off the influx.
Isn't that ICE's job - "Enforcement"? Perhaps we can employ some National Guard solders as extra manpower to help move the masses of these criminals back to where they came from?
Crowded ships brought American troops back to New York Harbor for months after V-Day.
Good point.
What we see here then is simply more propaganda.
Thanks.
âWe all know you canât pack them up and ship them back across the border,â Kasich said.
Thatâs the defeatist attitude that we donât need. Go home Kasich.”
Who cares if we get all of them? The important thing is to get as many as we can and stop the bleeding across the border.
Why not, Kasich? We can put men on the moon, build super colliders, but we can’t enforce immigration laws? People like Kasich have enabled the problem by doing nothing for years, then tell others that want to fix it that they can’t accomplish it. We need people in office that can do things, not those that tell us it can’t be done.
There is a simple solution to this. Dont allow any welfare, or education, drivers license, unless they self deport and come back with legal paperwork. Throw in a free bus pass too.
Just caught a few snippets of Greta's show. Seems Newt Gingrich was whining nonsense about deporting illegals, made a stupid comment about it breaking up families. The illegals can take their families with them. If that is what he said, what about sending criminals to jail? Doesn't that break up families even more?
...was explaining a sect of his immigration stance....
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A sect? What?
Does that include Puerto Ricans (who are U.S. citizens)?
Do those things and illegal aliens will deport themselves and pay for the trip.
Human Trebuchet youtube, 48s
Use bounties to motivate the work force.
As for how to find them, the welfare rolls would be a good starting point, then the schools and all the out of state leeches getting in-state tuition, then the prison populations could be depopulated a considerable savings. They're all "hiding" in plain sight.
Kasich: Surrender Monkey
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