Posted on 11/11/2015 2:56:35 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
During last nightâs debate, John Kasich derided Donald Trumpâs immigration stance, calling it âa silly argumentâ to promise that Trump would deport all illegal immigrants. âWe all know you canât pack them up and ship them back across the border,â Kasich said directly to Trump. Trump insisted he could do it, although he still gave no details on how he plans to do so. Earlier today, on Morning Joe, Trump elaborated a little more, adopting Mika Brzezinskiâs nomenclature by promising a âdeportation forceâ to carry out the mission:
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David Rutz at the Free Beacon captures the exchange:
Trump, who has frequently promised a giant âwallâ between the U.S. and Mexico that the latter would pay for, was explaining a sect of his immigration stance when MSNBC co-host Mika Brzezinski asked him how exactly he would deport the millions of illegal immigrants living in the country.
âAre you going to have a massive deportation force?â she asked.
âYouâre going to have a deportation force, and youâre going to do it humanely and youâre going to bring the countryâand frankly, the people, because you have some excellent, wonderful people, some fantastic people that have been here for a long period of time,â Trump said. âDonât forget, Mika, that you have millions of people that are waiting [in] line to come into this country, and theyâre waiting to come in legally.â
A deportation force? Presumably this is different than ICE, with a specialized mission to find 11 million people living among a population of over 300 million, and in the narrow time frame that Trump has previously promised (one year, in a previous debate). Would this be a paramilitary operation, or a law-enforcement agency? If so, how much money would it cost, and how exactly would they round up 11 million people? More to the point, do conservatives really believe that launching a new âdeportation forceâ is consonant with limited-government principles, or more of a giant leap toward a police state?
Put it a different way: Would anyone trust Hillary Clinton with a âdeportation forceâ? Or Barack Obama?
Now, itâs fair to note that the phrase in this case came from Brzezinski, and not Trump. However, that just adds to the perception that Trump is winging it, rather than offering a well-thought-out policy. If he had a policy that didnât include a âdeportation force,â then Trump would hardly have gone along with Brzezinski on this point. At least when pressed to explain his immigration policies, Trump mainly ends up mouthing platitudes about a âbeautiful wallâ (which is good policy), and vague promises to eject millions of people without any specificity about how that gets accomplished. The âdeportation forceâ comment should be a warning not just to conservatives about Trumpâs predilection for top-down authority, but also that heâs largely offering nothing but slogans that he thinks people want to hear.
Trump has dug in so deep on this issue there is virtually no way he would be able to renege.
He may come across as a dilettante on other issues but for that reason alone were he nominated I’d have no problem voting for him.
A deportation force, Very Good! I think though merely enforcing the employer to pay a fine for every illegal plus cutting off welfare would be enough.
Deportation force?
Use/unleash ICE. . .that is what they are there for.
The MSM will spin it as , “I’ll create a deportation force to eject all immigrants”
I’m not a big fan of a new force.
Start fining employers and taking businesses away. Start fining landlords and taking buildings away.
End freebies in education, health care, housing assistance...
Then just get out of the way between them and the border.
The MSM will spin it as , “I’ll create a deportation force to eject all immigrants”
Sounds like a plan to me. Go Trump Go
“.....cutting off welfare would be enough.”.....
The magic key. Cut off ALL the free stuff and many would leave on their own.
“We all know you can’t pack them up and ship them back across the border,” Kasich said.
That’s the defeatist attitude that we don’t need. Go home Kasich.
Simplifying the tax code would free up a lot of IRS agents who are used to harassing people.
JUST LIKE THE NAZIS!!!!!!!!
/s
Press 1 for English.
Press 2 for Deportation.
Repeat as necessary.
Why not use E-Verify and count on resulting SELF-DEPORTATION?!?!??!?
If you can’t get a job or benefits without passing E-Verify, and employers are fined for violations, then illegals will LEAVE!!
And labor camps for the prisoners.
No anchor baby status.
Anyone caught driving while not able to speak, understand and read English has to become a live organ donor.
what bothers me about this statement is
that we already pay for
Border Patrol
US Army
US Navy
US Marines
Customs Service
Immigration Service
Dept of Homeland Security
FBI
US Air Force
US Dept of Justice
and more
I don’t think we need yet another bureau
or department
We just need a loyal AMERICAN president who will direct
all the ones we already have
to do their jobs (like most of them want to)
(instead of directing them to do just the opposite)
Well yes.
Dwight Eisenhower employed a World War II airborne commander Gen. Joe Swing to run his deportation task force in the 50s. Trump brings up Eisenhower's operation during the debate. He does have a model as it has been done before.
Simply withhold all Federal LEO funding and grants from those states or municipalities that refuse to police immigration law as written. EVERY suspect detainee must have their citizenship verified and foreign nationals turned over to ICE.
Second, make violation of e-verify a criminal offense.
Of course, make Federal funding contingent upon school, hospital and welfare (of ANY kind) verification of citizenship via e-verify.
NOBODY has to comply. Unless they want sugar's money.
The first thing need to do is station the military on the border before the fence/wall is built
Until his popularity sinks which means it starts impacting the Trump brand and businesses, then all bets are off (IMO)
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