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To: NRx

Unbelievable that Mets Mgr. Collins left Harvey in after that walk. Unheard of, and fatally stupid. Harvey was already far too revved up to calm down, but that should have ended his night. Instead he left him in and put Familia in yet another no-win situation.


29 posted on 11/01/2015 9:54:29 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

Correct. The lead off walk in the ninth is where they lost the game.


31 posted on 11/01/2015 10:00:48 PM PST by ez (Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is... - Milton)
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I agree that Collins should have taken out Harvey after he issued that walk. It didn’t cost the Mets the series, though. Even if the Mets had won tonight, they still had an uphill battle to win the series.


32 posted on 11/01/2015 10:01:09 PM PST by CommerceComet (Ignore the GOP-e. Cruz to victory in 2016.)
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To: montag813

There will be lots of Monday Morning Q Backing. The great players who got the Mets to the series- Murph, Cespedes— even deGrom, just shut down. They must feel terrible.

The Royals were the better team. Congrats to them. Evidently the first game in April is Mets and Royals!!


45 posted on 11/01/2015 10:07:41 PM PST by Exit148 ((Loose Chnge Club founder) Put yours aside for the next Freepathon!)
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To: montag813

Shades of John McNamara from the 1986 Red Sox.


86 posted on 11/02/2015 3:19:55 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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And Grady Little in the 2003 ALCS, leaving Pedro Martinez in the game with a 5-2 lead against the Yankees.


87 posted on 11/02/2015 3:20:46 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: montag813

“Unbelievable that Mets Mgr. Collins left Harvey in after that walk. Unheard of, and fatally stupid. Harvey was already far too revved up to calm down, but that should have ended his night. Instead he left him in and put Familia in yet another no-win situation.”

Hindsight is 20/20. Harvey was dominating the Royals and kept them scoreless all game. IIRC the Royals went down 1,2,3 in the eighth so he still looked very effective. All he needed was 3 more outs to win the game so it made sense to keep him in for the 9th. Often in these situations taking the pitcher out leads to losing the game as the reliever gets pounded. IMO whether or not to take Harvey out after the lead off walk is a 50/50 call.
PS I am a Yankee fan and didnt really care which team won.


99 posted on 11/02/2015 4:05:24 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (It's the apocalypse, lets have some fun!)
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