Posted on 10/30/2015 8:14:22 AM PDT by Amntn
This could be a YUGE shift amid the 2016 political continuum. According to media reports the Donald Trump and Ben Carson camps are currently organizing a meeting to discuss future debates.
The RNC is not currently invited.
There are two aspects inherent within this dynamic that cannot be over emphasized:
* First - Similar to the DNC tactics, by RNC Rule the candidates are barred from participating in, or organizing, debates that are outside of the Republican National Committee.
* Secondly, and perhaps more importantly, the RNC is Team Bush.
The RNC, as a current political construct, is a wholly owned subsidiary of the political dynasty known as the Bush Family. Currently, Jeb Bush is the candidate of the Bush family, and by extension the candidate of the RNC. Understanding this political dynamic is key to understanding the RNC/GOPe road map to nominate their candidate regardless of political opposition therein.
If Trump and Carson gather up enough support to strike against the RNC/GOPe apparatus there will be an internal war similar to the war within the republican party in 1978/1979. You might remember candidate Ronald Reagan organizing and paying for debates too.
When you combine this reality with the strategic deal-making acumen of Donald Trump, the scope of the needed popcorn buckets increases exponentially.
It is interesting, and brutally obvious to note, the Bush Team are absent from the initial media announcement:
[...] On Thursday, many of the campaigns told POLITICO that the RNC, which has taken a greater role in the 2016 debate process than in previous election cycles, had failed to take their concerns into account. It was time, top aides to at least half a dozen of the candidates agreed, to begin discussing among themselves how the next debates should be structured and not leave it up to the RNC and television networks.
The gathering is being organized by advisers to the campaigns of Donald Trump, Ben Carson, Bobby Jindal and Lindsey Graham, according to multiple sources involved in the planning. Others who are expected to attend, organizers say, are representatives for Carly Fiorina, Mike Huckabee, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio and Rick Santorum. The planners are also reaching out to other Republican candidates.
Spokespersons for the RNC did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
"I think the campaigns have a number of concerns and they have a right to talk about that amongst themselves," said Christian Ferry, Graham's campaign manager. The objective, Ferry said, was to "find out what works best for us as a group."
The RNC/GOPe are in a tight spot, and because Jeb Bush has his back against the wall, due to recent campaign/debate collapses, their ability to influence other candidates away from the meeting and subsequent conversation only adds additional leverage toward Team Trump and Team Carson.
This will be interesting...
A Possibility - Given the nature of their business interests and specific experience with broadcast production and media etc., it would be entirely possible for Team Trump to coordinate an independent debate format controlled and coordinated by people within his network group and contracted to meet the needs of each campaign.
Team Trump knows how to put on the event, how to coordinate the entire venture, and how to contract -for profit- the broadcast rights to any media outlet of their collective choosing. The campaigns would not only be in control of the venue, moderators and debate format, they could effectively profit from the associated revenue.
It would be beyond wonderful to see the RNC apparatus removed from the business end of selling their candidates to piranha left-wing media.
Obviously this would expose the RNC/GOPe machine to a loss of control and power. As a consequence, Team Bush would not look favorably upon such a possibility.
I prefer Cruz president but the idea of Cruz as AG after 8 years of lawlessness is glorious to think about.
And the loudest defender of B.J. Clinton during the impeachment proceedings.
I remember him saying it and thought the same thing.
Just cancel them all period. The individual campaigns are capable of getting their candidate’s message out.
Greta Van Sustren? Really? I did not know that.
I agree, intra-party debates are a dumb idea. Especially when the goal of the moderators is to make the party look bad as a whole.
What happened to him?
I never noticed that about Cavuto vs. Cruz. Of course I only ever get to hear him via SXM in car line each afternoon so I’ve obviously missed a lot. I find it surprising though. I really like Neal and can’t figure out what he’d have against a constitutionalist like Cruz. His go-against-the-grain tactics maybe?
You called conservativejoy and others liars but I have yet to see you post any sources that rebut their arguments.
Come up with the goods or give it a rest.
And I would thank you not to high-jack this thread.
Good luck with that one.
Saw this on MSNBC, this morning...about Trump’s and Carson’s campaign teams teaming up to call for this!
Go, Trump and Carson, go!!! This is exactly what’s needed!!!!
No. The message needs to be given to the media and the GOP that the candidates are tired of playing their game.
“Enefriends.”
Cruz is a man of great faith in the Lord, and so is Carson. Trump is slowly, slowly warming up to the idea.
Amen, Amntn, amen.
conservativejoy was accused of being all in for Trump and being anti-Carson. I’ve seen cj post as many positive Cruz articles, as she’s posted for Trump. So, there’s that.
If MNJ has info to refute the posted articles, great, let’s debate. Otherwise...don’t just jump on to bash....it IS getting tiresome.
I like the idea of Supreme Court Justice Cruz. To be a balance to the "Wise Latina".
Trump should wipe his ass with that pledge and send the stained paper direcly to Priebus...
CJ has a bit of a pompousness problem.
When asked for details about a certain scandal swirling around Carson, CJ gave out a 80 minute video, SOMEWHERE IN WHICH Carson is supposed to have said what was scandalous. Nothing about where, nothing about what. I’m supposed to take that as a slam dunk refutation. Sorry, prosecution, you really need to do better than that or you are not competent.
Cruz/Cotton 2024!!!
“”I think the campaigns have a number of concerns and they have a right to talk about that amongst themselves,” said Christian Ferry, Graham’s campaign manager. The objective, Ferry said, was to “find out what works best for us as a group.””
Christian Ferry? Linda’s campaign manager? The jokes will be writing themselves!
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