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Have the secrets of a lost civilisation finally been unearthed?
telegraph.co.u ^ | 4 October 2015 • 8:00am | Rupert Hawksley

Posted on 10/28/2015 10:41:05 AM PDT by Trumpinator

Based on Hancock's own investigations and interviews with archaeologists and astronomers, the book claimed survivors of this cataclysm, the giant flood remembered in myths all around the world, went on to settle in locations from Mexico to Egypt and impart their ancient knowledge to the other remaining humans.

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"Let's get to grips with that first of all," he says. "The foundations upon which history is based look increasingly suspect. Let's no longer shroud ourselves in the illusion that [mainstream] historians and archaeologists are invincible."

There are, according to Hancock, two smoking guns. Firstly, naondiamonds - types of diamonds that result from a cosmic impact - were discovered recently in North America. In 2014, the Journal of Geology confirmed that this matter was formed 12,800 years ago.

"For someone who proposed [in Fingerprints of the Gods] a giant cataclysm between 12,000 and 13,000 years ago, it is a bit of a gift from the universe to have a bunch of very major scientists now saying that there was indeed a giant comet impact 12,800 years ago," he says.

Secondly, excavations at an archaeological site in Turkey called Göbekli Tepe have uncovered ruins that are at least 11,600 years old. That is more than 6,000 years older than other megalithic sites such as Stonehenge. A civilisation capable of the advanced architecture and art discovered at Göbekli Tepe is not supposed to have existed 11,600 years ago.

So what is the explanation?

"We're looking at a place where the survivors of a lost civilisation settled." References to these survivors – described as sages, magicians or "mystery teachers of Heaven" – can be found in various cultures, he adds.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: ancientaliens; cataclysm; catastrophism; gobeklitepe; godsgravesglyphs; grahamhancock; history; turkey; vondaniken
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To: Wuli

I can’t disagree with what you wrote.


61 posted on 10/29/2015 6:10:55 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: Flag_This
Then why was it not transmitted forward as a myth? Maybe it exists in some myth I have never read about. The Greeks have a story of a hyperborea and that is about as close as one can match to something that resembles an ice age. Plenty of stories of a "thaw" like event like the end of the ice caps would have produced aka a world spanning flood.

The theory of course is that the coastal people were the advanced ones and those inland pretty much primitives. The end comes and wipes out the coastal civilization that rose up and all that survive are a few refugees from the coast and the move in with the primitives and the primitives memorialize this in our mythology of their ancestors meeting gods or heroes. When put that way it's a plausible scenario.

62 posted on 10/29/2015 6:15:51 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: mwilli20

And I suggest you re-watch that same NOVA show about the statues on Easter Island- it was filmed BEFORE they realized that the statues are not just the heads, but are full-body statues buried up to the neck.

And the large stones on puma-punku could not be moved with a few dozen cranes. And they are dated to be over 10,000 years old.

You can choose to believe that they were able to cut and move them by banging it with rocks if you like.


63 posted on 10/29/2015 6:19:37 AM PDT by Mr. K (If it is HilLIARy -vs- Jeb! then I am writing-in Palin/Cruz)
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To: Trumpinator

PING


64 posted on 10/29/2015 6:22:05 AM PDT by jetson
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To: Trumpinator

-—The theory of course is that the coastal people were the advanced ones and those inland pretty much primitives-—

that concept is primary today except the interior people are known to dwell in flyover country


65 posted on 10/29/2015 6:29:23 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump)
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To: Trumpinator
"Then why was it not transmitted forward as a myth?"

Why would everyday life have been transmitted in myth? The ice ages lasted thousands of years - it was all those people had ever experienced. Had it been summer one day, followed the next with mile-thick glaciers then that probably would have been remarked upon; but, as far as we know, the ice advanced and retreated over the course of centuries.

66 posted on 10/29/2015 9:35:20 AM PDT by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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To: Flag_This
Had it been summer one day, followed the next with mile-thick glaciers then that probably would have been remarked upon

Good point. So the dramatic thaw = flood myth? And that legend survived memory transmission down through the ages?

67 posted on 10/29/2015 9:37:29 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: Trumpinator
"So the dramatic thaw = flood myth? And that legend survived memory transmission down through the ages?"

I know that just about every culture seems to have legends of a huge flood, but I don't know if they're memories of the same flood, or that bad floods are pretty common and these memories/legends are just local events for each culture.

If there was some global event that occurred that was capable of raising temperatures rapidly enough to melt glacial ice around the world and cause catastrophic flooding then surviving the flood would probably have been the least of the survivors' concerns.

68 posted on 10/29/2015 9:50:43 AM PDT by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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To: Flag_This
Hancock's theory - and he maybe half cocked about it to pun on his name - is that sacred architecture was created where the placement of the buildings in relation to one another align with how the stars were 12,000 years ago as a sort of memory of the ice age flaw global flood.

Over time the religions doing this forgot the details but kept doing this alignment of 'as above so below'. So that is his big contention - again going by memory of what I read years ago.

69 posted on 10/29/2015 10:01:47 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: 21twelve

So The Bible says both “Sons of God” and “Only begotten son”

so which is it? Did God have more than one son or not?


70 posted on 10/29/2015 11:18:24 AM PDT by Mr. K (If it is HilLIARy -vs- Jeb! then I am writing-in Palin/Cruz)
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To: mwilli20
And I dont know why you mentioned the Antikathera Mechanism.

We know that is only about 2000 years old

But the ruins of puma-punko are over 10,000 years old.

we could not move this stone today:


71 posted on 10/29/2015 11:34:55 AM PDT by Mr. K (If it is HilLIARy -vs- Jeb! then I am writing-in Palin/Cruz)
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Cataclysm!: Compelling Evidence of a Cosmic Catastrophe in 9500 B.C.
Cataclysm!:
Compelling Evidence
of a
Cosmic Catastrophe
in 9500 B.C.

by D. S. Allan
and J. B. Delair


72 posted on 10/29/2015 2:14:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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there's also LaViolette's claim that a galactic core explosion destroyed an advanced civilization which tried to pass down a warning via astrology and megaliths. Y'know, because just carving a giant inscription or illustration with caption on every available cliff face is so jejune.
Earth Under Fire: Humanity's Survival of the Apocalypse
Earth Under Fire:
Humanity's Survival
of the Apocalypse

by Paul A. LaViolette


73 posted on 10/29/2015 2:17:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

74 posted on 10/29/2015 2:19:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: 75thOVI; Abathar; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; ...



75 posted on 10/29/2015 2:19:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: Flood, Fire, and Famine in the History of Civilization
The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization

by Richard Firestone,
Allen West, and
Simon Warwick-Smith


76 posted on 10/29/2015 2:19:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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Atlantis and the Kingdom of the Neanderthals: 100,000 Years of Lost History
Atlantis and the
Kingdom of the
Neanderthals:
100,000 Years
of Lost History

by Colin Wilson


77 posted on 10/29/2015 2:23:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: Trumpinator
Humans don't build things just to build them.

Perhaps the ruling class discovered early on, that if you keep them occupied and tuckered out, the peasants are less revolting.

78 posted on 10/29/2015 9:03:57 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!�)
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To: Steely Tom
3-D printing using liquid metals is a hot field. In more ways than one.

The more things change, the more they stay the same: my mother's cousin was a 3-D printer in the 40s & 50s: ran a linotype machine.

79 posted on 10/29/2015 9:11:48 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!�)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Well that’s the thing. Gobekli Tepe was constructed before there were supposed to be peasants - hunter / gatherer societies don’t have peasants.


80 posted on 10/30/2015 6:27:08 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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